First PH/DS cycle - help!

Didrik

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Hi I'm trying out RPN's haVoc
(2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol)


What I've got is a liver support which I will take with the havoc early in the morning and 5pm with the havoc


Idk about PCT guys, I got this one;
RN - Revolution PCT 60 caps

In theory I will start the pct the day my 30day havoc cycle is done and do that for 30more days




need feedback and help please!
 
Didrik said:
Hi I'm trying out RPN's haVoc
(2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol)


What I've got is a liver support which I will take with the havoc early in the morning and 5pm with the havoc


Idk about PCT guys, I got this one;
RN - Revolution PCT 60 caps

In theory I will start the pct the day my 30day havoc cycle is done and do that for 30more days




need feedback and help please!
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Get some toremifene.
 
For what I've read around here and on other boards, you could go with an OTC PTC like the one you mentioned, but its a bit like playing russian roulette, there is a chance you might **** it up.
Get a serm, and use your OTC product as well.
Just my opinion based on a lot of board reading, I am not a doctor. Better be safe than sorry, though.
Good luck.
 
FranARG said:
For what I've read around here and on other boards, you could go with an OTC PTC like the one you mentioned, but its a bit like playing russian roulette, there is a chance you might **** it up.
Get a serm, and use your OTC product as well.
Just my opinion based on a lot of board reading, I am not a doctor. Better be safe than sorry, though.
Good luck.
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So by your experience, if it went what you describe as "wrong". What would usually happen? I am on the Havoc cycle now btw :) Works like a charm!
 
Didrik said:
So by your experience, if it went what you describe as "wrong". What would usually happen? I am on the Havoc cycle now btw :) Works like a charm!
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Im glad epi is working fine! Any sides so far? how is libido doing?

What would usually happen is that you will have more estrogen than test for some time, that will make you loose your gains. You may get gyno as well. PCT jump starts your natural production after the cycle, that is why its so important!
 
None sides what so ever, sex drive is more than usual, no zits, no nothing without gains! In my opinion would a good test booster to boost the testosterone + a OTC PCT do the trick then or should I get like Novadex? Thank you so much for answering ^^
FranARG said:
Im glad epi is working fine! Any sides so far? how is libido doing?

What would usually happen is that you will have more estrogen than test for some time, that will make you loose your gains. You may get gyno as well. PCT jump starts your natural production after the cycle, that is why its so important!
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Didrik said:
None sides what so ever, sex drive is more than usual, no zits, no nothing without gains! In my opinion would a good test booster to boost the testosterone + a OTC PCT do the trick then or should I get like Novadex? Thank you so much for answering ^^
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Using a good test booster would be better than the OTC PTC on itself, but I would go with Nolva o Clomid if it is possible for you to find a good place to buy it. Where I live you can get it from a pharmacy, no questions asked haha (I live in Argentina).
Bear in mind than the PCT is just as important as the cycle :).
 
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