First PH Cycle

Contopaxi

Contopaxi

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Hey guys ,

Will be jumping into my first PH Cycle in about a months time. Just looking to lean out naturally a bit more. Current condition and 84kgs
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Cycle will be from Blackstone labs range of products.

Cycle;
Halo Elite ~ Weeks 1-6@ 2caps Each Day (AM & PM Split Dosing)
Gear Support ~ Weeks 1-6@ 2Caps Each Day (AM Dosing)
PCT IV ~ Weeks 1-6 @ 2 Caps each day ( AM dosing )

PCT;
Clomiphene (Clomid) ~ Weeks 6-9 @50mg) Each Day (AM Dosing)
Gear Support ~ Weeks 6-9@ 2Caps Each Day (AM Dosing)
Eradicate ~ Weeks 10-12 @ 3Caps Each Day (Morning, Noon & Night Split Dosing

Will probably add DAA into my PCT and use Taurine on cycle if I experience back pumps.

Thinking of adding a joint support product also because my wrists are already pretty bad.
 
Every thing looks solid but you need to taper off of the serm, Week 1/2 50 mg a day week 3/4 25 mg a day
And look into an a.i. For estro rebound when you stop the serm, and it's always good to have one on hand during the cycle incase any issues pop up
 
zcol94 said:
Every thing looks solid but you need to taper off of the serm, Week 1/2 50 mg a day week 3/4 25 mg a day
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Thanks for the reply.

I've done plenty of research but haven't seen anything to say why to taper off clomid , why would that be ?

Thanks again.
 
Well you've built a solid base thus far naturally. Good work man. Without looking up BSL Halo...how many mg's is 2 caps?
 
Dma378 said:
Well you've built a solid base thus far naturally. Good work man. Without looking up BSL Halo...how many mg's is 2 caps?
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2 caps is 100mg.
I did read that 75mg is the sweet spot but a bit tricky with 50mg caps and apparently 50mg isn't really worth it so I'm happy to run it straight 100mg for 6 weeks.

If worse came to worse I'll run for 4 weeks and re asses
 
You'll be fine. Will you be pre-loading any cycle support? Also as stated above, a good idea to pick up an AI for use in pct after SERM for rebound prevention.
 
Contopaxi said:
Thanks for the reply. I've done plenty of research but haven't seen anything to say why to taper off clomid , why would that be ? Thanks again.
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if you jumped straight off at 50 your body would trip out and estro would be sky high... At least that's my dumbed down understanding of it
 
Dma378 said:
You'll be fine. Will you be pre-loading any cycle support? Also as stated above, a good idea to pick up an AI for use in pct after SERM for rebound prevention.
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I have some liquidex ( arimidex ) that my mate has given me and it's about 2-3 years old... It may have expired ? Not sure if that's possible but it's been kept in darkness the whole time.
It's from RUI products who I know are reputable.

Might be worth just getting some more.
Bit pricier here in Australia but cost isn't an issue where overall health is being played with.
 
zcol94 said:
if you jumped straight off at 50 your body would trip out and estro would be sky high... At least that's my dumbed down understanding of it
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Makes sense when you put it that way.

Will continue my research and make sure I have everything 100% right before I even contemplate starting.

Should I make a log also? Do people still do that or find that interesting ?
 
Contopaxi said:
Makes sense when you put it that way. Will continue my research and make sure I have everything 100% right before I even contemplate starting. Should I make a log also? Do people still do that or find that interesting ?
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tons of ppl do logs on here, there's always someone looking for info on halo
 
Cool man... Dibs on first subbed haha
 
Yea if you need an AI maybe check out this page.Invalid Link Removed
 
Dma378 said:
You'll be fine. Will you be pre-loading any cycle support? Also as stated above, a good idea to pick up an AI for use in pct after SERM for rebound prevention.
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if it is expired you could always add the new inhibit e which should be good fora 4 week halo run. Check out the link lean provided. I would also suggest reduce xt for cortisol control. Other than that it looks good man. Enjoy the gains.

http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/reduce-xt-by-serious-nutrition-solutions
 
Afi140 said:
if it is expired you could always add the new inhibit e which should be good fora 4 week halo run. Check out the link lean provided. I would also suggest reduce xt for cortisol control. Other than that it looks good man. Enjoy the gains. http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/reduce-xt-by-serious-nutrition-solutions
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I've got eradicate which seems to do the job to counter the rebound after PCT.

Ahha I just want to start now but I have something on at the start of March where I think I'll have a drink or two so don't want to be doing that while on cycle.

Forgot to add that I'll be running TUDCA on cycle also for liver support.
 
Definitely taper the Clomid 50/50/25/25. 50mg ED is a lot and 2 weeks at that dose is plenty. Plus, you will risk experience some of the sides like blurry vision if you continue with your high dose.
 
Contopaxi said:
I've got eradicate which seems to do the job to counter the rebound after PCT. Ahha I just want to start now but I have something on at the start of March where I think I'll have a drink or two so don't want to be doing that while on cycle. Forgot to add that I'll be running TUDCA on cycle also for liver support.
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yeah eradicate would work Imo. Some people don't think arimistane is an effective ai but it has always worked for me. TUDCA is a nice addition as well. I feel you on the waiting. I wouldn't drink on cycle so I think it's wise to wait ;) one or two should be ok but I'm more of a cautious one
 
BRUstrong said:
Definitely taper the Clomid 50/50/25/25. 50mg ED is a lot and 2 weeks at that dose is plenty. Plus, you will risk experience some of the sides like blurry vision if you continue with your high dose.
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Is there any negative affects recovery wise in tapering off of the clomid ?
Have read about the blurry vision and emotional state clomid can put you in.



Afi140 said:
yeah eradicate would work Imo. Some people don't think arimistane is an effective ai but it has always worked for me. TUDCA is a nice addition as well. I feel you on the waiting. I wouldn't drink on cycle so I think it's wise to wait ;) one or two should be ok but I'm more of a cautious one
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Nah 100% won't be drinking etc on cycle.
Gives me another month or so to lean out a bit before I start the cycle.

Macros currently at 185protein , 65 fats and 250g of carbs.
Slowly going to start raising my carbs from
Next week and hit maintenance.
Probably will throw some cardio ( LISS ) just for the sake of it
 
You've got a good base man, high dose Hdrol shuts me down hard- and I've ran it prob 5 times. You should grab some Stano, especially since you want to lean up- this will help and combat lethargy.
 
I'm almost ready to start ... Pretty much at the end of this month now ( unexpected trip for an engagement in a week )

Should I run an Ai on cycle?
Plenty of people have told me not to run an A.I on cycle. I do have Nolva on hand though of gyno was to flare.

I have eradicate for after my clomid pct.

I am scaring myself out of doing the cycle now... Because I've read that ostarine can cause gyno ( in the PCTIV from blackstone labs)
 
Contopaxi said:
I'm almost ready to start ... Pretty much at the end of this month now ( unexpected trip for an engagement in a week )

Should I run an Ai on cycle?
Plenty of people have told me not to run an A.I on cycle. I do have Nolva on hand though of gyno was to flare.

I have eradicate for after my clomid pct.

I am scaring myself out of doing the cycle now... Because I've read that ostarine can cause gyno ( in the PCTIV from blackstone labs)
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You are correct to have an ai and only use it if you need it. You shouldn't have any gyno issues on halo, but it is nice to be prepared. You won't just wake up one morning with gyno, it will come on slowly and you will feel the estrogen in your nips. It's ok if they get a little sensitive, if they get painful then you need to jump on your ai. Hope this eases your mind a little bit
 
Alright well I'll make sure I have Liquidex on hand as well as Nolva just in case.

Was so excited to start but as time keeps going on I keep reading more and more...
I think I'll stay off the forums for a couple of weeks haha

Thanks for the response
 
Contopaxi said:
Alright well I'll make sure I have Liquidex on hand as well as Nolva just in case.

Was so excited to start but as time keeps going on I keep reading more and more...
I think I'll stay off the forums for a couple of weeks haha

Thanks for the response
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You could always drop the pct 4 and save it for future use. I would run that first and bridge it into the halo personally. Log your cycle, that way you will have people to help you out every step of the way. I will subscribe to it for sure!
 
yates84 said:
You could always drop the pct 4 and save it for future use. I would run that first and bridge it into the halo personally. Log your cycle, that way you will have people to help you out every step of the way. I will subscribe to it for sure!
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Yeah I'll 100% be logging it.
Will be sure to tag once it's up and running.
Only really wanted to make this a 6 week run so that's why I'd prefer to stack it or drop it completely
 
Contopaxi said:
Yeah I'll 100% be logging it.
Will be sure to tag once it's up and running.
Only really wanted to make this a 6 week run so that's why I'd prefer to stack it or drop it completely
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I really don't think you will get much benifit running the pct 4 with the halo. Nothing wrong with keeping your first cycle simple. It's a good idea to only introduce 1 new compound to your body at a time so if you have any bad side effects you know exactly what compound is causing it, and you can deal with it instead of playing guessing and elimination games.
 
yates84 said:
I really don't think you will get much benifit running the pct 4 with the halo. Nothing wrong with keeping your first cycle simple. It's a good idea to only introduce 1 new compound to your body at a time so if you have any bad side effects you know exactly what compound is causing it, and you can deal with it instead of playing guessing and elimination games.
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Maybe I should drop PCT4 completely and save it for a run sometime down the path if and when I decide to cycle again ?

I was only recommended PCT4 to battle lethargy sides.

No harm in dropping it.
Maybe I could run it by itself after I do my pct from this cycle and stack it with something else later on
 
Contopaxi said:
Maybe I should drop PCT4 completely and save it for a run sometime down the path if and when I decide to cycle again ?

I was only recommended PCT4 to battle lethargy sides.

No harm in dropping it.
Maybe I could run it by itself after I do my pct from this cycle and stack it with something else later on
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Pct 4 won't be good for lethargy imo, I would think the osta would make lethargy worse. I used dermacrine with halo and had zero lethargy, has a mild ai in it as well. If you use the pct 4 after pct I would follow the time on+ pct= time off before using anything else hormonal
 
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