First Ph cycle

Kerolos90

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Looking for some information on Ph. I am just turned 21 and have been working out since I was 17. 5'10 165lbs, I am looking to put on some mass as I am a reallly hard gainer. At the moment I am taking creatine and protien and want more of a boost. What would be a safe Ph cycle to take , be it less effective than others is fine with me just looking for something to help me pass my plateau. If you guys have any suggestions for PH and the PCT I would apperciate it thx.

I was thinking of trying these 2 combined.

Methyl 1-D and Decavol RD
 
At that size I would say you need to optimize your diet and training more to be honest. Take an unbiased look at your current regime and make the changes you need.
 
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At that size I would say you need to optimize your diet and training more to be honest. Take an unbiased look at your current regime and make the changes you need.
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Also, don't stack on your first run.
 
Diet and training are key!

how many cals are you eating daily?

for hardgainers (like myself) ive seen peeps eat up to 4.5k cal/day.

Definitely look at diet b4 jumping to a ph
 
Ok what about just trying Methl 1-d alone, and i eat up to 4000 calories a day, Im just a really hard gainer looking for a diffrent apporach thanks.
 
Do the calorie upping first, lift heavy and hard. You will see gains, then get a ph if you really want, better yet get some test. Most people will do what they want no matter what people say though. Make sure you use a serm in pct, I like torem. Good luck.
 
I was/am a hard gainer too that was looking at the ph approach... Switching up my diet and training and I went from 130-150 in about 3 months...

Trust me..switch it up and track your calories before anything else

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