First PH cycle, what kind of pct for epiandro?

[R2Dtwo]

Planning on taking Sup3r epi by Olympus labs, but am having a hard time finding proper info on pct. was thinking clomid but not sure if this is overkill since it doesn’t produce too much estrogen. If so, at what dosage? And I know this is a noob question but does clomid come in pill form or you have to inject

 

[jrock645]

Definitwy take nolva or clomid. Needing a serm has nothingg to do with estrogen, its all about hpta suppression.

Clomid and nolva are available in tablet or researxh liquid form. You dont inject it.

 

[Old Witch]

Epiandro, doesn’t really need a pct, because it’s just not that kind of strong. Unless you’re taking more than a gram of it a day. Much more, IMO.

EpiSTANE though... nolva for sure.

 

[R2Dtwo]

Definitwy take nolva or clomid. Needing a serm has nothingg to do with estrogen, its all about hpta suppression.

Clomid and nolva are available in tablet or researxh liquid form. You dont inject it.

I meant epi in general doesn’t really increase estrogen

 

[R2Dtwo]

Definitwy take nolva or clomid. Needing a serm has nothingg to do with estrogen, its all about hpta suppression.

Clomid and nolva are available in tablet or researxh liquid form. You dont inject it.

do you drink research liquid? If you can give me some helpful links or YouTube videos I’d greatly appreciate it

 

[irishiron300]

Epiandro solo won’t yield crazy gains. Add another andro for better gains. 1/4...I like 1. SERM for recovery. Run cycle minimum of 8 weeks followed by 4 pct.

 

[R2Dtwo]

Epiandro solo won’t yield crazy gains. Add another andro for better gains. 1/4...I like 1. SERM for recovery. Run cycle minimum of 8 weeks followed by 4 pct.

The trouble I’m finding is not being able to find any proper info on serm dosage etc. is it all the same dosage for all phs or is there some sort of equation to figure out the dosage

 

[Old Witch]

It’s going to be less if you’re not fully shut down. A month of nolva at 20mg.

If fully shut down it’s 50 clomid 40 nolva, two weeks, 25 clomid, 20 nolva until your balls work again, four more weeks most of the time.

 

[R2Dtwo]

It’s going to be less if you’re not fully shut down. A month of nolva at 20mg.

If fully shut down it’s 50 clomid 40 nolva, two weeks, 25 clomid, 20 nolva until your balls work again, four more weeks most of the time.

Will epiandro fully shut me down?

 

[Smont]

Will epiandro fully shut me down?

It could if dosed high enough.

 

[Smont]

Solo your not gonna notice much under a gram a day. Maybe a little strength . over a gram a day it's kinda like low dose winni for some ppl

 

[jrock645]

The trouble I’m finding is not being able to find any proper info on serm dosage etc. is it all the same dosage for all phs or is there some sort of equation to figure out the dosage

Youre overthinking this. PCT is not unique to what compound youre running.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

EPI-Andro is a very poor choice to run solo. As a prohormone it is strictly androgenic and as its end metabolite DHT, it is metabolised extremely quickly in muscle cells by (3α-HSD) and (3β-HSD) enzymes to inactive metabolites.

Given it is centrally active it will promote Strength and a sense of "alpaha", it potentially may promote enhanced lipolysis and adipocyte apoptosis.

Moral of my post - It is much much better stacked with an actual anabolic compound.

 

[Old Witch]

EPI-Andro is a very poor choice to run solo. As a prohormone it is strictly androgenic and as its end metabolite DHT, it is metabolised extremely quickly in muscle cells by (3α-HSD) and (3β-HSD) enzymes to inactive metabolites.

Given it is centrally active it will promote Strength and a sense of "alpaha", it potentially may promote enhanced lipolysis and adipocyte apoptosis.

Moral of my post - It is much much better stacked with an actual anabolic compound.

3xHsD will activate it. It also needs 17xHsD to become dht. It’s active at all stages though. Once you get a high enough dose to get it into your system in an active amount it’s noticeable. It’s just not very anabolic.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

3xHsD will activate it. It also needs 17xHsD to become dht. It’s active at all stages though. Once you get a high enough dose to get it into your system in an active amount it’s noticeable. It’s just not very anabolic.

Both intermediates of EPI-andro are very weak androgens. My point was that in skeletal muscle, DHT is metabolised soo quickly that it in reality isn't anabolic.

 

[Kratom267]

Prostate killa stuff!

 

[R2Dtwo]

Prostate killa stuff!

I plan on taking some cycle support aswell

 

[R2Dtwo]

Youre overthinking this. PCT is not unique to what compound youre running.

So i should just follow the directions on the back of the bottle? I still don’t know much to buy. I know all phs are gonna needs seems, I just wanna know if I need less for An epi cycle than I would for a much stronger ph

 

[Nac]

Odds are you'll find epiandro by itself underwhelming. Run some 1andro with it, man. Make it worth your while.

 

[Smont]

So i should just follow the directions on the back of the bottle? I still don’t know much to buy. I know all phs are gonna needs seems, I just wanna know if I need less for An epi cycle than I would for a much stronger ph

Did you not notice everyone telling you your wasting your time with epiandro solo. WASTING YOUR TIME AND MONEY. unless your gonna run it at 1000mg+ for 8+ weeks.

 

[jrock645]

So i should just follow the directions on the back of the bottle? I still don’t know much to buy. I know all phs are gonna needs seems, I just wanna know if I need less for An epi cycle than I would for a much stronger ph

Seems to me you need to do a lot more reading before you take any of this stuff. Not trying to be an ass but you’re clearly clueless and this is prettty rudimentary stuff you’re hung up on.

 

[R2Dtwo]

Seems to me you need to do a lot more reading before you take any of this stuff. Not trying to be an ass but you’re clearly clueless and this is prettty rudimentary stuff you’re hung up on.

And I’ve already asked twice if anyone can give me some links to some info so I can learn more

 

[hairygrandpa]

And I’ve already asked twice if anyone can give me some links to some info so I can learn more

www.google.com

 

[R2Dtwo]

Did you not notice everyone telling you your wasting your time with epiandro solo. WASTING YOUR TIME AND MONEY. unless your gonna run it at 1000mg+ for 8+ weeks.

I know about stacking with 1 andro, I’m just looking for something mild more for cutting and something to start off small with. I’m aware, money isn’t an issue for me and I’m not looking for something that’s gonna be super effective right off the bat

 

[jrock645]

And I’ve already asked twice if anyone can give me some links to some info so I can learn more

Do some legwork on your own. Google stuff. Search and read on this forum. You act like this stuff is hard to find.

 

[Old Witch]

We are not going to teach you 100% of everything.

Get some ideas with information attached and then ask us if you’re wrong.

 

[R2Dtwo]

We are not going to teach you 100% of everything.

Get some ideas with information attached and then ask us if you’re wrong.

I’ve finally found a thread on dosing seems. Only real question I have is what’s the best sponsor site to get my research liquid form from? I assume this isn’t considered asking for a source? If so then just forget I asked. Also, haven’t been able to find information on if I’m drinking or injectijg this research chemical

 

[jrock645]

Definitwy take nolva or clomid. Needing a serm has nothingg to do with estrogen, its all about hpta suppression.

Clomid and nolva are available in tablet or researxh liquid form. You dont inject it.

The injection issue has been answered already.

 

[R2Dtwo]

The injection issue has been answered already.

Missed it on the first post

 

[Smont]

I know about stacking with 1 andro, I’m just looking for something mild more for cutting and something to start off small with. I’m aware, money isn’t an issue for me and I’m not looking for something that’s gonna be super effective right off the bat

If you're just looking to cut I'm not looking for something super effective then you shouldn't be messing with your hormones and just diet

 

[R2Dtwo]

If you're just looking to cut I'm not looking for something super effective then you shouldn't be messing with your hormones and just diet

I’ve had good cuts in the past with Ec stack but I found that the constant drinking of caffeine and ephedrine makes me feel like a zombie in terms of sleep etc.