First helladrol cycle

Bcuzimbatman

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I'm interested in buying the mrsupps helladrol stack and dosing as follows

Week1 and 2 pre loading with Taurine and Glucosamine chondroitin complex

(Week3)
Hella /75/
Forged liver support
(Week4)
Same
(Week5)
Same
(Week6)
Hella /100/
Liver support
(Week7)
Hella /100/
Liver support
Forma stanzol 2xday
(Week8)
Hella /100/
Liver support
Forma stanzol 2xday
DAA 3Gxday

PCT
Clomid /100/100/50/50
Forged post cycle (as directed)
Forma stanzol 2xday
DAA 3Gxday

Taurine, creatine, and joint complex throughout entire cycle. Not sure if I should stop DAA and forma stanzol after 4th week of PCT.
I want mainly strength and size gains but the most important thing to me is bouncing back and having my stuff work properly. I'm getting married this year in DEC so I need everything to work lol
 
You don't need to preload anything. Other than hawthorne berry.

As far as the rest goes, we'll need stats, cycle history, age, goals etc etc.
 
Hawthorne is for blood pressure, which is actually the only issue I had on hella. It was my first cycle, I put on more than a few pounds and never went above 75 Mgs.
 
Ehh 8 weeks is pushing it imo

Edit: whoops my bad, appears I can't read lol
 
It would be 6 weeks on. A friend was telling me I should run a test base to avoid lethargy. He recommended 4-ad. I really don't want to feel lethargic or lose libido. Is that something common while on cycle?
 
Bcuzimbatman said:
It would be 6 weeks on. A friend was telling me I should run a test base to avoid lethargy. He recommended 4-ad. I really don't want to feel lethargic or lose libido. Is that something common while on cycle?
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Yea definetly is. Stano or 4ad are both good choices
 
I know some say it's too much but I think the hella dosing on your cycle is fine I did my first run 75/75/100/100/100/100 on helladrol, was my first cycle ever. On 100 I felt like a beast, only sides I noticed were extreme back pumps(cured by taurine 20min PWO) and some crazy lethargy. I started it at 75 since I'd never seen an hdrol cycle where someone had extreme issues at 75mg and I looked through quite a few. I would say anything over 100 is pushing it and not necessary though.
 
How do u combat the lethargy? That's a side I really don't want. What did u use for pct at the end? Did everything come back ok? Gains, libido, energy? And what results did u achieve?
 
Bcuzimbatman said:
How do u combat the lethargy? That's a side I really don't want. What did u use for pct at the end? Did everything come back ok? Gains, libido, energy? And what results did u achieve?
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Lethargy is a hard one, a good diet helps but if you're eating high calories that will make you tired as well no matter how good your diet is. I don't recommend a lot of caffeine while on cycle because of BP issues, but if it's that or you aren't gonna make it then some is alright but try to keep it to a minimum. Remember that fruit is also a very good way to get some energy and also healthy, I like to eat apples as a pick me up for instance.

PCT I used DAA, Torem, and Erase. My libido bounced back fine within a month, can't say how hormones did since I didn't get bloods but I had no noticeable adverse effects after.

I gained 12lbs and lost 3 in PCT for a total gain of 9lbs so not too bad. If you want details here is a link to the log I did, unfortunately pictures are down since it's so old but all the info is there:

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I even took some time off during PCT because I was having really bad shoulder pain and still retained 9lbs of gains just by eating right, remember diet is the most important thing.
 
So upon researching some I've found that the lethargy can be combatted by using a test base during the cycle. What do u guys recommend I use. I've read 4-Ad works but I'm not sure which brand or type to use. And also I just wanna confirm that my cycle and dosing so far is good?
 
So like this

(Week1)
Hawthorne berry
Glucosamine
(Week 2)
Hawthorne berry
Glucosamine

(Week 3)
Helladrol 75mg
4-AD
Forged Liver
Taurine
Glucosamine
Creatine 5g

(Week 4)
Helladrol 75mg
4-AD
Forged Liver
Taurine
Glucosamine
Creatine 5g

(Week 5)
Helladrol 75mg
4-AD
Forged Liver
Taurine
Glucosamine
Creatine 5g

(Week 6)
Helladrol 100mg
4-AD
Forged Liver
Taurine
Glucosamine
Creatine 5g
Forma stanzol

(Week 7)
Helladrol 100mg
4-AD
Forged Liver
Taurine
Glucosamine
Creatine 5g
Forma stanzol 2x day

(Week 8)
Helladrol 100mg
4-AD
Forged Liver
Taurine
Glucosamine
Creatine 5g
Forma stanzol 2x day
DAA 6g

(Week 9)
Clomid 100mg
Forged post cycle
Forma stanzol 2x day
Creatine 5g
DAA 3g

(Week 10)
Clomid 100mg
Forged post cycle
Forma stanzol 2x day
Creatine 5g
DAA 3g

(Week 11)
Clomid 50mg
Forged post cycle
Forma stanzol 2x day
Creatine 5g
DAA 3g

(Week 12)
Clomid 50mg
Forged post cycle
Forma stanzol 2x day
Creatine 5g
DAA 3g
 
I think people overdose the hell out of clomid. I see no reason to go above 50 mg. People using clomid EOD can bring testosterone levels way up let alone everyday but 100 mgs just seems like too much
 
You would run the Hawthorne berry throughout the cycle. The reason its preloaded is because it initially spikes the blood pressure before it begins to lower it and you don't want that happening the same time hdrol does too. As for a test base Dermacrine is my choice without question, its suposedly going to be back in stock "any day now" so thats the only issue. Other wise I'd go with stano or forerunner labs 5-Alpha test.both worked well for me. I found 100mg of hdrol gave me much better results than 50 with no noticeable increase in sides.
 
I used AMS 4-AD RDe on my LGI SD-10 cycle as a test base. I had less sides on that SD run than I did on my Helladrol run, but since that's the only run I've done with SD I guess I could just respond well to the stuff and the 4-AD did nothing... but I don't think that's the case.
 
You can't talk about sources on here man.......
 
Started my cycle a week ago and am really feeling the 4-AD already it's like a perma pump all day long and a lot of tightness in the muscles. I was reading up on dieselbolan and was wondering if it would be a good idea to add this in at week 3-6 of the hella to make bigger strength and mass gains. Any advice?
 
Don't add in anything your cycle will give you great gains how it is. Helladrol at 100 a day is strong, and also could give you horrendous back pumps. Also diesel contains 2 methyls(DMZ and I believe LMG) and could possibly give you a host of other sides and the gains from adding it, especially for only 3 weeks, would probably be negligable if any at all. Don't change a good cycle, if you want to try something else later than that's fine but more does not equal better.
 
SuperPro said:
Don't add in anything your cycle will give you great gains how it is. Helladrol at 100 a day is strong, and also could give you horrendous back pumps. Also diesel contains 2 methyls(DMZ and I believe LMG) and could possibly give you a host of other sides and the gains from adding it, especially for only 3 weeks, would probably be negligable if any at all. Don't change a good cycle, if you want to try something else later than that's fine but more does not equal better.
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I'm pretty sure LMG is non methylated. Not that I disagree with anything else you said though.
 
PumpHouse said:
I'm pretty sure LMG is non methylated. Not that I disagree with anything else you said though.
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I can't remember exactly what it is about it but I know there's something about LMG, this is the compound: 13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)diene-17-one. I know I saw jbry explain it in a post once, something about that ethyl bond I think... sh*t though I'm no chemist lol.
 
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