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First ever PH cycle any ideas?

KillJoy

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I've been lifting on and off for the last 6 years. I'm 23, 5'8, 170lbs at about 15% bf. When I first started hitting the weights I was 130 lbs with over 20% bf, so I like to say that I've came a long way even with just lifting off and on.

Anyways, I've been doing a lot of research and I would like to do a PH cycle. I want to do something very mild and something that would stack well with a bottle of Massfx and Recreate. I see a lot of hype about 3-AD, Havoc, 11oxo, Superdrol; however, I hear Superdrol is more of a hardcore PH.

My diet is pretty clean I'd say... Actually its probably the cleanest its ever been. My daily calorie intake is anywhere from 2400-3k. with about 200-250g of protein. Now my daily calorie intake varies because some days I like to stay low on carbs for up to 3 days and then carb up on some wheat pasta, rice, and even some Special K. So on low carb days I'm usually sitting at about 75g of carbs and my med/high carb days I'm at 175-225g.

I eat a lot of egg whites, natty pb, 2 servings of tuna a day, a lot of chicken, cottage cheese, skim milk, cashews, and a few shakes of whey. Anyways thats just a basic break down of my diet... I think its pretty legit but I'm still learning the ropes here.

As a PCT I will have on hand:
Natural Test boost = Blue-up
Aromatase Inhibitor = Hyperdrolx2 ( Tapered down each week )
Liver support = Perfect Cycle
Creatine

Questionable additions to PCT?
SERM = Nolvadex ( I hear SERM is not necessary for a mild PH cycle... Can someone elaborate? )
and
Cortisol Control product?

And thats it... What would you guys suggest for a first PH cycle? My intent is to gain some dry lean mass and also cut down a little fat in the process.

Thanks
 
Hrol is ur best bet here, save MassFX for PCT and dont use Recreate during cycle or in PCT...save it for some other time
 
Hrol is ur best bet here, save MassFX for PCT and dont use Recreate during cycle or in PCT...save it for some other time

Ok, did my research... Going to go with H-drol by CEL.

Pre cycle
2 weeks before cycle
Cycle support: 1 serving a day
Superpump250: 2 scoops

H-drol Cycle
Week 1-4 H-drol at 50mg
Cycle support: 2 servings a day
Generic Vitamins
Superpump250: 2 scoops

I haven't heard of anyone using massfx in a PCT... All I've heard is stacking it with your PH for the whole cycle. Care to elaborate?

PCT 30 days
SERM ( need help with this one, I can't get Nolva from a Doc )
Cycle support: 1 scoop a day
Hyperdrolx2 ( AI ) should I tapper down an AI?
Blue-up ( natty boost )
Reduce-XT ( Cortisol blocker ) eww out of stock... Any other choices?
Creatine
Superpump250

Biggest problems with my future stack: No SERM ( unless I find a legal source without going to a doctor ) and I'm confused with where to use my MassFX.

Thanks...
 
Ok, did my research... Going to go with H-drol by CEL.

Pre cycle
2 weeks before cycle
Cycle support: 1 serving a day
Superpump250: 2 scoops

H-drol Cycle
Week 1-4 H-drol at 50mg
Cycle support: 2 servings a day
Generic Vitamins
Superpump250: 2 scoops

I haven't heard of anyone using massfx in a PCT... All I've heard is stacking it with your PH for the whole cycle. Care to elaborate?

PCT 30 days
SERM ( need help with this one, I can't get Nolva from a Doc )
Cycle support: 1 scoop a day
Hyperdrolx2 ( AI ) should I tapper down an AI?
Blue-up ( natty boost )
Reduce-XT ( Cortisol blocker ) eww out of stock... Any other choices?
Creatine
Superpump250

Biggest problems with my future stack: No SERM ( unless I find a legal source without going to a doctor ) and I'm confused with where to use my MassFX.

Thanks...

Do not really need a SERM for a h-drol only cycle get some Post Cycle Support start the reduce-xt or get lean xtreme and start that on day 15 of pct and the AI start in the 4th week of pct and taper down the dose. Good luck bro:cheers:
 
MassFX is a test booster, test boosters are pointless to run along with steroids......save it for PCT to bring ur natural test back to normal

if u havent bought the Massfx yet then dont....get Post Cycle Support instead
 
Yeah I bought it already... Maybe I'll order 2 cycle supports and use it for the last two weeks of my bottle of MassFX then jump right onto h-drol after the MassFX is gone.
 
Bro you can get a SERM. You just can't plan to ingest it. It's illegal to purchase Nolva/Clomid/Torem without a prescription intending it for human consumption. However, if it's for research purposes, i.e., for use on mice or for biochemical studies, it's perfectly legal. Food for thought.
 
Bro you can get a SERM. You just can't plan to ingest it. It's illegal to purchase Nolva/Clomid/Torem without a prescription intending it for human consumption. However, if it's for research purposes, i.e., for use on mice or for biochemical studies, it's perfectly legal. Food for thought.

Interesting... Time for more research. Hah, maybe I can make up some college experiment :P
 
Interesting... Time for more research. Hah, maybe I can make up some college experiment :P

If you happen to accidentally ingest some of the research chemical, it's no one's legal liability. Accidents may happen. Just try your hardest to keep it out of your system as these chemicals are toxic and/or lethal if administered without the consent of a licensed medical professional.
 
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