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Billcarter02

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I was thinking about using dbol for two weeks to kick start my sarms cycle containing ldg, rad and s4 would i gain any benefits from the two weeks of dbol and how bad would the shutdown be from two weeks.
 
Dont use dbol for your first ever cycle, especially without an outside form of test. Dbol will shut down your htpa and it straight up hurts without test involved. Do you have an ai on hand?

You won't see anything from two weeks of dianabol, 4-6 weeks is recommended to see the effects of the drug.
 
Yeah i have armistane and clomid. So wont i gain anything at all from two weeks of dbol, is the supression from dbol total shutdown or supression ive not got an answer for that anywhere. Thanks
 
You want to run a 2 week kickstart to a sarms cycle with dbol? And this is your first cycle?

I’m struggling to see a logic there bro?

Why wouldn’t you just run your sarms?
 
Because sarms take a few weeks to kick in bro i was thinking dbol could help to put abit of mass on quickly before the sarms kick in
 
Billcarter02 said:
So what do you reccomend i do im open for advice about anything
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Personally I would suggest test at 500mg a week for 12-16 weeks and if you want add anavar for last 4-6 weeks
Non injectable - 1 and 4 andro cycle - always a great mild cycle
Designer steroids- dmz with a test base like 4 andro or dermacrine

All will need a full pct even a sarms cycle
 
Run the dbol for 6 weeks along with your sarms, you will literally gain nothing from 2 weeks of dianabol and tbh, youre going to lose all of your gains without test because of the shutdown. Dianabol has a half life of four hours, not near long enough to keep your levels high, same with sarms.

If youre going to shut yourself down, might as well do it right, you can get test for cheap on the vial
 
Billcarter02 said:
Is it total shutdown or is it like 40-60% supression
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Suppression is a type of being shut down. Everyone reacts differently and you will be shut down , don’t go by percentages. Think of it as a on off switch (it’s not one but just think of trying to get it back to normal)
 
Wouldn't it be more sensible to just run one sarm at a time starting out to gauge your body's reaction? That's what I'm currently doing with ostarine and I've actually been pleasantly surprised by it being more anabolic than I expected.
 
I would take the clomid with dbol and sarms, then prolong clomid into PCT.
This way no shut down and better recovery.
D-bol: 30/30/30/30
Sarms: ?/?/?/?/?/?/?/? (mg depends on the sarm used)
clomid: 20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20/10 - PCT
Some exemestane on hand.
 
... someone mentioned that in PCT, clomid eod instead of ed ups testosterone more, have to read about it.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I would take the clomid with dbol and sarms, then prolong clomid into PCT.
This way no shut down and better recovery.
D-bol: 30/30/30/30
Sarms: ?/?/?/?/?/?/?/? (mg depends on the sarm used)
clomid: 20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20/10 - PCT
Some exemestane on hand.
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He mentioned he has arimistane, but thats not going to be strong enough I don't think
 
Running dbol solo is just dumb...and sarms are less than underwhelming. Kids gonna shut himself down and come out of it smaller than when he started.
 
swimfan65 said:
Running dbol solo is just dumb...and sarms are less than underwhelming. Kids gonna shut himself down and come out of it smaller than when he started.
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Yep. But he already bought it -and is probably shy of needles. I can understand him.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Yep. But he already bought it -and is probably shy of needles. I can understand him.
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25g 5/8s feel like a mosquito bite though, you can wiggle a needle around in your delt and itll feel like a beesting at best.

But I understand, I was a little b1tch when it came to needles before this cycle
 
swimfan65 said:
Running dbol solo is just dumb...and sarms are less than underwhelming. Kids gonna shut himself down and come out of it smaller than when he started.
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Worked fine for dudes 40 years ago who were bigger than anyone on this board. Definitely not the best way to do things, but the “lose all your gains” nonsense mostly applies to people who don’t know how to train. So I do agree to a point. Running orals solo is far from the worst thing one can do
 
BarryBondsHOF said:
Worked fine for dudes 40 years ago who were bigger than anyone on this board. Definitely not the best way to do things, but the “lose all your gains” nonsense mostly applies to people who don’t know how to train. So I do agree to a point. Running orals solo is far from the worst thing one can do
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Those dudes were taking 5-10mg of methandrost, not 30-60mg, they didn't shut themselves down 100% like people nowadays do
 
BarryBondsHOF said:
Worked fine for dudes 40 years ago who were bigger than anyone on this board. Definitely not the best way to do things, but the “lose all your gains” nonsense mostly applies to people who don’t know how to train. So I do agree to a point. Running orals solo is far from the worst thing one can do
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Aint bigger than me...lol
 
Shiznitzz said:
Those dudes were taking 5-10mg of methandrost, not 30-60mg, they didn't shut themselves down 100% like people nowadays do
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I’m just always skeptical about self reported dosages of IFBB pros. Not even disrespecting them but guys like Mentzer claimed using ridiculously low amounts of deca and was called out by many associates about that. no idea if its true but even with the higher potency i think someone said in the ballpark of 100mg dbol daily? no idea if true, but ill try and find the article again. mentzer claimed like 10 or around what you said
 
BarryBondsHOF said:
I’m just always skeptical about self reported dosages of IFBB pros. Not even disrespecting them but guys like Mentzer claimed using ridiculously low amounts of deca and was called out by many associates about that. no idea if its true but even with the higher potency i think someone said in the ballpark of 100mg dbol daily? no idea if true, but ill try and find the article again. mentzer claimed like 10 or around what you said
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Yeah, I suspect they were probably all popping them like skittles, in reality, and the guys we all know today were genetically gifted in their ability to respond and have minimal sides.
 
I’ve ran Ostarine and mk together for 8weeks and they didn’t compare to the current tbol cycle I’m only at my 4th week on. Only reason I took sarms is due to not having a AAS source.

You obviously have a source so why bother with sarms for bulking ����*♂️

After my tbol cycle I will be running the last of my Ostarine for muscle retention. But that will be the last time I bother with them.
 
The effects ostarine had on my eyesight made me never want to use a SARM again. Anytime I'd walk into a room I'd be damn near blind for 30-45 seconds as my eyes had to adjust to the light/dark changes.

I did like the flavor though, odd right? But I looked forward to it haha. Using AAS after using a SARM, I wish someone would have talked me out of wasting my time and money on SARMS.

Damn Dylan Gemmeli! Lol
Sheriff Morri said:
I’ve ran Ostarine and mk together for 8weeks and they didn’t compare to the current tbol cycle I’m only at my 4th week on. Only reason I took sarms is due to not having a AAS source.

You obviously have a source so why bother with sarms for bulking *

After my tbol cycle I will be running the last of my Ostarine for muscle retention. But that will be the last time I bother with them.
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Billcarter02 said:
Bevause im afraid of hair loss mate
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S4 was stopped early in human trials and rad140 hasn’t been studied on humans so side effects and certainly long term side effects are not known. Yet you’re happy to run them regardless of this information yet scared of a possible side effect of hair loss?
 
Dbol is one of the worst compounds you can take if you're worried about hair loss.

Any time you mess with your hormones, sarms included, you are throwing your system out of wack and you are opening yourself up to hormonal imbalance and hair loss.

If you can get tbol or var those would be much better than dbol from a hair loss standpoint.
 
Sounds like you were going to run this regardless of anyone’s views or insights!

Why ask if you were going to run it anyway ffs! Even though everyone is saying it’s a waste of time!
 
Sheriff Morri said:
Sounds like you were going to run this regardless of anyone’s views or insights!

Why ask if you were going to run it anyway ffs! Even though everyone is saying it’s a waste of time!
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Chill bro, let the guy do his thing.

@op, If I were you, I'd get cycle support, nac or tudca for your liver, I'm taking 700mg milk thistle daily, its cheap. That way you dont destroy your liver with the dbol.

Good luck mate.
 
Dbol only isnt a waste of time �� What are you going on about hundreds of people did it in the past and still do it now.
 
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