first cycle questions...

heat83

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I've recently been looking into and trying to gain some information on running my first cycle through steroids. I've been an athelte all my life and currently I'm looking for a way to lean up and improve my current workouts.

In the past ive used many supplements including andro while it was still around and love it but now i want to step it up a bit. I've talked to a few friends who have run a cycle of stanozolol with no previous steroid use and were pretty sastified. My current goal of this cycle would be to lean out my body while building/keeping solid lean muscle. I know this stack wouldnt promote any large gains but i would like to increase my strength and again lean out. This is what i have in mind and would love for any feedback possible in regards to it.

Winstrol depot: 50mg per day, 4 weeks on
Primobolan depot: 400mg per week, 4 weeks on

also obvis during this time i will be on a strict high protien low carb diet and i will be using a high intensity circuit training program. Currently I'm 6'7" 245lbs. and 16% bodyfat. I want to get down to where i was 2 years ago at 239 lbs. but with 6% body fat, i had alot more strentgh and my muscle was solid.

Anyways thats what i have so far, ive heard a lot of people using a pct afterwards and im wonerding if i should do the same, i know i will be taking a multi-v and milk thistle during the cycle. Please Please post if u think u can help my cycle in anyway!
 
honestly ..i would throw a low dose test in there 250-300mg/week will be fine ..just to conuteract the lethargy and libido issues you may encounter ..plus it makes you feel great!!
 
prop being the test of choice for such a short cycle ...


week 1-8 60-75 mg test prop EOD
week 3-8 50 mg winstrol ED
...and not much knowledge on primo ..but alot of ppl have said its a waste of money ..you can spend less money on better things. i personally like anavar ...that gets me ripped and strong. 50mg/ED is my sweet spot for the Var
 
heat83 said:
I've recently been looking into and trying to gain some information on running my first cycle through steroids. I've been an athelte all my life and currently I'm looking for a way to lean up and improve my current workouts.

In the past ive used many supplements including andro while it was still around and love it but now i want to step it up a bit. I've talked to a few friends who have run a cycle of stanozolol with no previous steroid use and were pretty sastified. My current goal of this cycle would be to lean out my body while building/keeping solid lean muscle. I know this stack wouldnt promote any large gains but i would like to increase my strength and again lean out. This is what i have in mind and would love for any feedback possible in regards to it.

Winstrol depot: 50mg per day, 4 weeks on
Primobolan depot: 400mg per week, 4 weeks on

also obvis during this time i will be on a strict high protien low carb diet and i will be using a high intensity circuit training program. Currently I'm 6'7" 245lbs. and 16% bodyfat. I want to get down to where i was 2 years ago at 239 lbs. but with 6% body fat, i had alot more strentgh and my muscle was solid.

Anyways thats what i have so far, ive heard a lot of people using a pct afterwards and im wonerding if i should do the same, i know i will be taking a multi-v and milk thistle during the cycle. Please Please post if u think u can help my cycle in anyway!
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im 5 11 and 255 so for a guy your size that winstrol isn't gna lean you out much. prolly just kinda puff you up a little bit

i agree with the other guy you would prolly be better off throwin some test in there. i just finished a 6 week cycle of winstrol only and it did a good job making me look buff but didn't promote much of any strength gains. i just started my test 400 and deca 300 cycle and im just 3 weeks in so im really looking forward to some real strength gains and gettin sum mass on.
 
puff me up a little? since when does winstrol do that to your body?

and again im not looking for mass, i want overall hardening of the muscles and strength, im still not sure what i should cycle here....
 
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You should probably base your cycle off some sort of test. So ya, test prop at maybe 100mg EOD for 8 weeks would probably be fine. Adding Winstrol would be alright in conjunction with test... But should probably be run for only 6 weeks... So as previously mentioned weeks 3-8.

This will give you what you need to achieve what you want... I'm assuming your generally cutting and trying to hold onto every last lb. of muscle you can :P

So now, it's all about the diet...
 
dra05ke said:
prop being the test of choice for such a short cycle ...


week 1-8 60-75 mg test prop EOD
week 3-8 50 mg winstrol ED
...and not much knowledge on primo ..but alot of ppl have said its a waste of money ..you can spend less money on better things. i personally like anavar ...that gets me ripped and strong. 50mg/ED is my sweet spot for the Var
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i would personally mix the winny and prop in the same syringe, shake it up and shoot EOD
 
I honestly hate winstrol... Kills my libido even on test.. If its your first cycle I would keep it real simple. To many compounds will be harder to manage or determin which is causing sides.

I like winnie better pinned, It seems to have a better affect,just my opinion.

Your safest bet would be to run test at 500mg per week and keep the carbs to a minimum. Dont get fancy the test will help you cut while keeping your muscle.

Tren is the only steroid that will really harden cut and put on muscle at the same time. But i would never use that your first go.
 
if i wanted to run Test Enanthate instead of the prop would 250mg wk 1-10.Also if i was doing the test e when would be a good time to add in winstrol ?
 
Run the enthate at least 500/wk... If this is your first cycle I would not suggent the winnie.. You dont know how your body will react to the increased DHT from the test conversion let alone adding the winnie... If you have any potential for hair lose this could potentially increase that exponatialy!

Just my two cents.. But if you must i would run it the last 4 weeks at 50mg/day
 
Thanks. and yea i have run winstrol b4 but i wanted to run it again with some test so i can better gains. no hair loss history in my family
 
test enan 500mg/wk for 12-15 weeks

nothing else. if your first cycle consists of a bunch of sh!t, you won't know how your body responds to each one individually and what works best for you, i.e. wasting a lot of time and money. next go round, add something (just one), judge accordingly, and move on.
 
crazyfool405 said:
i would personally mix the winny and prop in the same syringe, shake it up and shoot EOD
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bad idea, u cant mix water and oil based steroids in the same syringe.

to the op, your original cycle will be just fine for the results you are looking for. i would up the primo to at least 500mgs a week though. and i would run for much longer than 4 weeks. primo takes longer to kick in.
 
mooch2321 said:
bad idea, u cant mix water and oil based steroids in the same syringe.

to the op, your original cycle will be just fine for the results you are looking for. i would up the primo to at least 500mgs a week though. and i would run for much longer than 4 weeks. primo takes longer to kick in.
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you actually can. but ok man.
 
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