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First cycle layout

Def run Liv 52 and milk thistle. But milk thistle is a more focus on kidney and acne. But would recommend both and yes they in pills.
 
steve_ifbb said:
What dose for the liv-52 and the milk thistle homies?
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Not sure what the dose is, I'm not at home now but I'm just going to follow what the dosage and instructions say on the bottle. Liv 52 I think is 2 pills per day.
 
We got your back bro! I'll be the one asking you questions when I start, as early as this sun!!!
 
steve_ifbb said:
Damn! You're getting anxious eh my man. Do you know where I can get Aromasin bro
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Don't tell me you didn't get psyched weeks and days before your first cycle bro! Plus, remember I waited much longer than you so I guess I'm excited to see what all the fuss is about haha
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
We can't source, just google reseach chemical aromasin.
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If a place to get AI's from (i.e. Research Chem sites) is not legit, underdosed etc., is there anywhere to find this on AM?

Thanks as always doctor!
 
Harry Seaward said:
If a place to get AI's from (i.e. Research Chem sites) is not legit, underdosed etc., is there anywhere to find this on AM?

Thanks as always doctor!
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Unfortunately no. U just have to find reviews of top sites, like type in Is this this site legit? Then you'll find reviews from ppl.
 
For the liv52 and milk thistle just follow the bottle instructions and make sure your others like I call them are in stock for you as well.
Fish oil multivitamin etc
 
steve_ifbb said:
Should I start the first day I pin or wait a week or 2?
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I'd go ahead and run it right from the beginning. Some people have terrible reactions to aromatization and some people don't react much at all. It's not fun finding out the hard way, play it safe. Good luck!

-Genetic
 
ItsAllGenetic said:
I'd go ahead and run it right from the beginning. Some people have terrible reactions to aromatization and some people don't react much at all. It's not fun finding out the hard way, play it safe. Good luck!

-Genetic
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You talking about my arimidex bro? I'm just gone Start running that .25 mg eod starting week 3
 
steve_ifbb said:
You talking about my arimidex bro? I'm just gone Start running that .25 mg eod starting week 3
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Oh sh*t I forgot u were running dbol, i'd start the arimidex now then since dbol does aromatize quite a bit.
 
Ya true I'll start monday. I went from 194 to 201 in a week :/. Guys, when do I stop the arimidex again though? Right before I start my Nolva and aromasin ?
 
steve_ifbb said:
Ya true I'll start monday. I went from 194 to 201 in a week :/. Guys, when do I stop the arimidex again though? Right before I start my Nolva and aromasin ?
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The bloat isn't a bad thing so don't think that. In fact, it can actually help with strength and size gains. I never run an AI with dbol and I don't run nolva with drol since I'm not prone to estro sides. I bloat like a mother ****er (not as bad as most though I'd say), but strength gains are retarded awesome.
 
Alright thanks man. Also, what should my blood pressure be at for it to be considered normal? I'm gonna check it when I get to the gym.
 
steve_ifbb said:
Alright thanks man. Also, what should my blood pressure be at for it to be considered normal? I'm gonna check it when I get to the gym.
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Make sure you are using the large adult cuff or it will read high. If it is a machine it will also read high on a bigger arm. Mine gets up to about 140/90 when I'm using **** like tren and that's not really a big deal as long as thats the upper limit. Any higher than that and you'll probably want to try a different compound.
 
Alright thanks bro! Another question, can I run a test booster on my pct along with my Nolva and aromasin? Might not run the hcg and just do my Nolva, aromasin and test booster
 
Also, I just run milk thistle and liv 52 while I'm on the dbol for 5 weeks right? I can hop off that once I'm off the dbol?
 
steve_ifbb said:
Alright thanks bro! Another question, can I run a test booster on my pct along with my Nolva and aromasin? Might not run the hcg and just do my Nolva, aromasin and test booster
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You can do that. I highly recommend doing the hcg though as it makes pct a lot easier. If you want to just blast it at the end rather than run it through the whole cycle thats better than nothing. I prefer blasting it actually.

steve_ifbb said:
Also, I just run milk thistle and liv 52 while I'm on the dbol for 5 weeks right? I can hop off that once I'm off the dbol?
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Yeah. Test isn't going to affect your liver values much.
 
Thanks a lot for your help man, what you mean blast it all at once? Ya I really don't wanna keep poking after I'm done my cycle man lol f*uck
 
steve_ifbb said:
Fair enough my man, why is hcg so necessary ?
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When you don't use hcg, your balls can start to atrophy from their non-use. When you do pct without hcg in your cycle, your balls have to come back to full size before full function can begin which can take a couple weeks. With hcg, your balls are already full size and can begin test production immediately after GnRH production kicks in. This is the broscience of it, but whether or not the mechanism is true, the end result is. My pcts have been way easier since the addition of hcg.
 
K I'm gonna add it in then! Thanks man, rather be safe that sorry, since I'd like to use my balls and be able to get an erection after my cycle, LOL
 
So a day after I stop my arimidex, I hop on my Nolva 40/40/20/20 while taking aromasin at 12.5 mg ED till im done the nolva ,Correct bros? Lookin into the hcg as well
 
steve_ifbb said:
So a day after I stop my arimidex, I hop on my Nolva 40/40/20/20 while taking aromasin at 12.5 mg ED till im done the nolva ,Correct bros? Lookin into the hcg as well
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Yessir.
 
Second week on. Loving the strength gains I'm getting from the dbol!! Bench went from 225 for 7 reps to 225 for 12 and 275 for 5!!
 
Question. Do I continue my arimidex even after my last poke? And continue it for 13 days then on the 14th day run my Nolva and aromasin? Or do I stop the arimidex on the last day of my last cyp poke?
 
steve_ifbb said:
Second week on. Loving the strength gains I'm getting from the dbol!! Bench went from 225 for 7 reps to 225 for 12 and 275 for 5!!
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NICE brother!!! Keep it up that's a solid strength gain. I'm a little pissed I had a upper back / rotator cuff flare up this past week (started my cycle on Sun) so have to keep it relatively light and avoid certain exercises for a couple weeks :(
 
steve_ifbb said:
Question. Do I continue my arimidex even after my last poke? And continue it for 13 days then on the 14th day run my Nolva and aromasin? Or do I stop the arimidex on the last day of my last cyp poke?
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Continue til the 13th day.
 
Are you using a ln electronic cuff? If so go to a fire station whee they can take it for you. Or something that is human done. I had my cuff show 180/110 and went to the doctor and it was 110/60. This was one of the more expensive cuffs but if you got big arms they are terribly inaccurate.

Also stims can raise 10-15 and stress can add 10-15. Dehydration plays a huge role, and if you just got done lifting.

I'd be worried if you had headaches and/or nosebleeds.

Good luck and get celery seed, Hawthorne berry, etc
 
steve_ifbb said:
Ya it's the one at the gym. Arm hard to fit in. But I had a nosebleed for the past 2 days just once.
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Then you're probably high unless you're prone to bloody noses from vessel problems or allergies. Otherwise get some support supps or head to the doctor. I was put on ACE inhibitors for 4 weeks and then was taken off then once I got off stimulants, junk food, etc
 
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