First cycle layout

Looks like you have everything set up. Gjdm on the research you did to out together the cycle
 
Thanks bro I def did my homework and I couldn't have done it without all your guys help. Third day after I poked my quad today, KILLS!!!! Hard to walk! This is normal for first time poke? Shot 2.5 ml
 
steve_ifbb said:
Thanks bro I def did my homework and I couldn't have done it without all your guys help. Third day after I poked my quad today, KILLS!!!! Hard to walk! This is normal for first time poke? Shot 2.5 ml
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I experience that always for the whole cycle with test or sustanon so I guess is normal for people to feel pain. Some experts say that if test hurts after pin then you know is legit and not fake. Lol
 
dsm2evo said:
I experience that always for the whole cycle with test or sustanon so I guess is normal for people to feel pain. Some experts say that if test hurts after pin then you know is legit and not fake. Lol
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Not always true. My most recent cycle consisted of extremely underdosed test and PIP was still a bitch. It's the BA content along with the ester that cause PIP.
 
jt339 said:
Not always true. My most recent cycle consisted of extremely underdosed test and PIP was still a bitch. It's the BA content along with the ester that cause PIP.
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I know it's not always truth I did one cycle back in 2001 that was medicated test in my country and it didn't hurt and trust me it was legit as I bought it in pharmacy.
 
dsm2evo said:
I know it's not always truth I did one cycle back in 2001 that was medicated test in my country and it didn't hurt and trust me it was legit as I bought it in pharmacy.
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Oh for sure. I'm using test e 350mg/ml now and it doesn't hurt a bit. Just saying, having PIP don't mean your **** is legit!
 
I'm running northern pharma gear right now 250 mg/ml. My buddy is 10 weeks in and is turning into a damn monster so I hope it's legit stuff.
 
Here's a pic of me after last nights back workout. 194 lbs and probably 13% body fat.
 

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Lookin' swollen brother! It's taking a lot of patience waiting till 4/15 or 4/22 to start mine. This is getting me too pumped to start maybe I'll blast off on Sunday screw it.:hammer:
 
Thanks bro! Took me 3.5 years natural to attain this size, finally want to take it to the next level. Keep me posted on when you start my man!! Let's do work!
 
Thanks homie. That's the goal. 6 meals a day, 3 shakes, one bar. Eating every 1.5-2 hours. I'm hungry for this! Crossing the t's and dotting the i's.
 
steve_ifbb said:
Thanks homie. That's the goal. 6 meals a day, 3 shakes, one bar. Eating every 1.5-2 hours. I'm hungry for this! Crossing the t's and dotting the i's.
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Just don't get fat. Jesus I do this every time and it sucks ass when you have to cut for three months after your cycle haha.
 
steve_ifbb said:
Thanks bro! Took me 3.5 years natural to attain this size, finally want to take it to the next level. Keep me posted on when you start my man!! Let's do work!
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Imagine 16 years! Definitely took some extreme patience although maybe I should have tried AAS at ~25 or so :bang head:

Gotta say though, I'm more glad than regretful I'm doing it this way; I think 30 is a good time i.e. natural test production decreasing anyway:sad2:

Again though, I'm not competing like you will so it's good you're doing this now, and with the long cycle including a good amt of EQ will = quality gains brah! Kill it.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Yeah errday.
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I got 1 mg in capsules arimidex, and also capsules of exemestane, so will be hard to split up. It's from a research chem site.

Anyone try it like this? It's a pain I thought I was getting tabs...

Should I use these random tabs, with anything in it, or the liquid Dex/Aroma from, let's just say, a place that you'd notice all over this website:)
 
Harry Seaward said:
I got 1 mg in capsules arimidex, and also capsules of exemestane, so will be hard to split up. It's from a research chem site.

Anyone try it like this? It's a pain I thought I was getting tabs...

Should I use these random tabs, with anything in it, or the liquid Dex/Aroma from, let's just say, a place that you'd notice all over this website:)
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Use the liquid, much less hassle.
 
F*uck. Just realized I am pinning cyp at 1.5 2x a week. So I am running test at 750 mg a week and eq at 500. Kinda big for my first I'm thinking :/
 
steve_ifbb said:
F*uck. Just realized I am pinning cyp at 1.5 2x a week. So I am running test at 750 mg a week and eq at 500. Kinda big for my first I'm thinking :/
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Damn dude just take the test down, although as usual I'm just thinking what I'd do...I can just imagine though that 1,250 mg total per week is a lot to take first time.

I joined AM in Feb. and was asking ppl about doing Test E & EQ (& was convinced to do test E only although I'm thinking maybe doing something like yours but less mgs each), and if I did that I would have done Test 250 and EQ 250 so total per week would still have been 500. I'm guessing it'll be a while before you fully feel the effects though, so be careful brother...
 
You're right man. Except eq really doesn't work unless it's 400/600 mg per week. I'm thinking about taking the test down to 1.3 ml 2x a week so it would be 600. Just 1.5 is more even and easier to shoot, lol. It is petty heavy though and running 50 mg dbol Ed as well..
 
After tonight poke I got sore right away too. I started laughing half way through the poke, my buddy made me laugh and I was kinda shaky. I can't be doing that.
 
steve_ifbb said:
After tonight poke I got sore right away too. I started laughing half way through the poke, my buddy made me laugh and I was kinda shaky. I can't be doing that.
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Hahaa man yeah I definitely don't plan on pinning while watching or doing anything funny. Any new AAS I take, I plan on taking the minimum amt and taking it from there. So for EQ down the road, and I have to say I'm tempted to try it for my first as well, I'll start with 400 / wk I hear you on definitely keeping the EQ up but 750 test seems like a lot esp with another compound.

I wonder if I do EQ 400 / wk and test E something like 250 or 300 if I'll be able to have slower, steadier, and more quality gains vs. just higher Test E (e.g. 500 mg / week).

I definitely don't wanna have that 'holy **** 20 lbs in 40 days this guy is on juice for sure' look. You are making me re-evaluate my prospective cycle damn you dude! Maybe I'll start a new post with that question...
 
Haha sorry bro! But test has to be higher than your eq man. And ya, maybe I'll drop down to 600 mg.. Would that be 1.3 mg 2x a week?
 
steve_ifbb said:
Haha sorry bro! But test has to be higher than your eq man. And ya, maybe I'll drop down to 600 mg.. Would that be 1.3 mg 2x a week?
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Yeah its a little bit over 600mg.
 
steve_ifbb said:
Haha sorry bro! But test has to be higher than your eq man. And ya, maybe I'll drop down to 600 mg.. Would that be 1.3 mg 2x a week?
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I've read both schools of thought (need at least 200 vs. need at least as much), maybe you can get by on 350 test / 400 EQ, but then that's almost as much test as I plan on doing anyway (400 or 450) and plus a whole other 400 mg per week so might get the 'obvious' effect. Either way I'll plan on trying to stay lean by keeping protein high, carbs moderately high and overall calories high but not like 5000.

Good luck again bro and keep us posted.
 
Harry Seaward said:
Hahaa man yeah I definitely don't plan on pinning while watching or doing anything funny. Any new AAS I take, I plan on taking the minimum amt and taking it from there.
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Smart man.

I wonder if I do EQ 400 / wk and test E something like 250 or 300 if I'll be able to have slower, steadier, and more quality gains vs. just higher Test E (e.g. 500 mg / week).
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Don't waste your time with that low of test. Sides are just as prominent and gains aren't nearly as good. In fact, a study showed that men on 300mg of test e a week vs. 600mg a week developed MORE sides such as hair loss and acne. Sounds counter-intuitive, but I've got friends that have to use above 700mg tren a week because any lower than that and the sides are actually worse. I know this goes against all previous logic, but from what I've seen it seems to be true. I think this has something to do with the amount of dopamine produced at those doses and as we all know, dopamine or one of its agonists is what gets rid of the common tren sides.

I definitely don't wanna have that 'holy **** 20 lbs in 40 days this guy is on juice for sure' look.
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You don't get that with test as much as you would with something like superdrol.
 
jt339 said:
Smart man.



Don't waste your time with that low of test. Sides are just as prominent and gains aren't nearly as good. In fact, a study showed that men on 300mg of test e a week vs. 600mg a week developed MORE sides such as hair loss and acne. Sounds counter-intuitive, but I've got friends that have to use above 700mg tren a week because any lower than that and the sides are actually worse. I know this goes against all previous logic, but from what I've seen it seems to be true. I think this has something to do with the amount of dopamine produced at those doses and as we all know, dopamine or one of its agonists is what gets rid of the common tren sides.



You don't get that with test as much as you would with something like superdrol.
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Wow thanks a lot JT, I really appreciate the help. So I'll probably stick to my Test cycle and keep it at 400 or 500 max and save my EQ for second cycle:) That's crazy too I had no idea that superdrol was that strong
 
Harry Seaward said:
Wow thanks a lot JT, I really appreciate the help. So I'll probably stick to my Test cycle and keep it at 400 or 500 max and save my EQ for second cycle:) That's crazy too I had no idea that superdrol was that strong
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Haha yeah it is, I'm about to run a SD/DMZ bridge, I foresee 15 to 20 pounds, I've been off for 6 months.
 
What are you dosing again for dbol? I'm still thinking of taking my first pin on Sun or Mon (if not then next week) and Dbol ED first three weeks and plan on 25 mg ED. I've never heard of nose bleeds but that makes sense if BP increases...
 
25 mg morning and 25 mg 1 hour before workout. Day 5 today and strength was noticeably great. Just wondering, what can I take for liver support?
 
steve_ifbb said:
25 mg morning and 25 mg 1 hour before workout. Day 5 today and strength was noticeably great. Just wondering, what can I take for liver support?
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Ru taking Liv 52? That seems like a staple for many, I'm definitely taking it. Also milk thistle I think is good, and I'm going to take a bunch of other stuff - B complex, hawthorne berry, grape extract, glucosamine chondroitin, pantothenic acid (good for skin / anti acne), and if needed doxycycline for acne.
 
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