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First cycle ideas

JellyJesus

JellyJesus

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Decided I'm going to try my first cycle of something hormonal. Tired of doing research and trying to find the 'best natty' supplement, when I know these will work, and for relatively the same price. I ran 4 weeks of fd2, endurance unreal, and saw strength gains with minimal weight increase, but it's no cheaper then most mild compounds. I may pick up a bottle for pct but not going to these natural anabolics.

About me -
6'4''
238
24 years old
Lifting on and off for 5-6 years. Not seriously until last year.

I have a cruise and a wedding coming up, so I'm thinking about starting a cut. I've gotten big, but never really attempted to lean out. I've never seen below my top two abs... even at my lowest weight.

Im looking at spartan lean v2, but the epi dose seems relatively low.. anyone have any ideas on this? I honestly want to stay more towards andros as they are mild and this is my first go round. I obviously still need to do research, just want to hear what y'all think first.
(I am also educating myself on pct as we speak, as a heavy lurker I understand its importance).
 
Run 1-dhea at 300 -500 mgs at 5-6 weeks. I would run Olympus labs or primeval labs for best bang for buck. Although DHEA (Andros) are not cheap to run effective cycle.
 
Currently in my second day using Epi, Energy feels a little more higher but cant really say till the 4th week ;(
 
The dosing of lean is 2 caps daily which will give you 300mg of enhanced delivery epiandro. The 7keto as well will add to the effects, as well as the the t2 helping to boost metabolism.

If you wanted you could add in Spartan hard which would up the dose of epi andro even further as well as add some more dry gains.
 
What's your bf? And how long do you have to cut? Epi-andro and 11-KT is a popular cutting stack. I'm running it this spring after a lean bulk/recomp with epi-andro/1 this holiday season. Have you tried EC?
 
BRUstrong said:
What's your bf? And how long do you have to cut? Epi-andro and 11-KT is a popular cutting stack. I'm running it this spring after a lean bulk/recomp with epi-andro/1 this holiday season. Have you tried EC?
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I second the epi/11 stack, or if u can't find 11kt anymore u could do epi/1ad
 
BRUstrong said:
What's your bf? And how long do you have to cut? Epi-andro and 11-KT is a popular cutting stack. I'm running it this spring after a lean bulk/recomp with epi-andro/1 this holiday season. Have you tried EC?
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I would guess my body fat is 25ish? Never have checked. (I have a picture in my fd2 log if you could better guess)

I'm aiming for a 6 week cut for my first round. 4 week pct.

Never tried ec, don't have a source and never really tried to buy it. Honestly never attempted an actual 'cut'.
 
JellyJesus said:
I would guess my body fat is 25ish? Never have checked. (I have a picture in my fd2 log if you could better guess)

I'm aiming for a 6 week cut for my first round. 4 week pct.

Never tried ec, don't have a source and never really tried to buy it. Honestly never attempted an actual 'cut'.
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Oh god.

Forget anabolics at all. Seriously. If you can't cut naturally anabolics won't just magically do all the work.

Get your diet straight and learn how to cut before you bother. At 25% your hormones are already a bit wonky and sides will be worse, gains will be less, and results will be wasted by lack of good diet. Save your money.
 
Ah, we'll that sucks. Sure you can get it online. Either way, you're not going to get the results you want with anabolics. Plus, at your stats you're probably going to want to run an 8 week cycle. Even if you run 6 you'll be on PCT during your wedding and cruise. If you're planning on drinking at all...bad idea. Get your diet in check, train properly, and revisit anabolics down the road
 
I think 25 much be to high of a number? I have a 36 in waste and I'm slightly defined. Maybe an inch of fat covering my abdomen. Maybe more 20ish?

Either way you're all right. I'll just try and do a ec stack as everyone says this is the most useful. Plus I don't wanna be doing anything while vacationing as well.
 
Lose 4-5 lbs a month for 2 or 3 months, than do your cycle. You'll see your increase in muscle more with less body fat covering gainz. Also you will lose body fat at accelerated rate on 1-DHEA/11-DHEA or 11-ketotestosterone.
 
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