First cycle help!

jake.miller23 said:
Ok, i agree that I probably should run the osta first to get my feet wet with supps of this strength and stronger. What other supps should be taken on cycle and post cycle? Thanks!
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Here, I just googled it for you:

Ostarine:

Selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs) bind to the androgen receptor and demonstrate osteo (bone) and myo (muscular) anabolic activity.
Androgen receptor activation

Binding and activation of the Androgen receptor alters the expression of genes and increases protein synthesis, hence builds muscle.
So in essence, SARMS such as Ostarine causes muscle growth in the same manner as steroids, however unlike testosterone and other anabolic steroids and prohormones, SARMS (as nonsteroidal agents) don't produce the growth effect on prostate and other secondary sexual organs.

Ostarine in particular exerts its anabolic effects on muscle tissue almost exclusively. So not only does it represent a new potential treatment option for a wide spectrum of conditions from muscle wasting diseases (from age-related to AIDS or cancer-related), but is also has immense potential for muscle building for Bodybuilders, fitness, athletes and an agent to minimize atrophy during recovery periods from serious surgery or similar situations.

On cycle support:


PH/DS/AAS cycles can*definitely*get you the gains, but it can also damage your body in the process.

Why damage something you're working so hard to build! Protect your body.

Benefits
- Liver Support
- Prostate Support
- Joint Support
- Blood Pressure Support*
Post Cycle:

SERM's - These are considered a must by many for PCT as they have shown proven results when dealing with a suppressed hormonal system.* However be advised it is illegal to possess these items without a prescription.* These can be obtained for 'research' however.* Dosing can vary greatly depending on the SERM so please search your favorite supplement/bodybuilding board for recommendations.* Examples of SERM's include clomid, nolvadex, toremifine, raloxifene, etc.

Spoon Feeding:

spoon-feed
\'spün-?f?d\
transitive verb
: to feed (someone) with a spoon
: to give someone information in a way that requires or allows no further thinking or effort
 
Matthersby said:
Here, I just googled it for you: Ostarine: Selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs) bind to the androgen receptor and demonstrate osteo (bone) and myo (muscular) anabolic activity. Androgen receptor activation Binding and activation of the Androgen receptor alters the expression of genes and increases protein synthesis, hence builds muscle. So in essence, SARMS such as Ostarine causes muscle growth in the same manner as steroids, however unlike testosterone and other anabolic steroids and prohormones, SARMS (as nonsteroidal agents) don't produce the growth effect on prostate and other secondary sexual organs. Ostarine in particular exerts its anabolic effects on muscle tissue almost exclusively. So not only does it represent a new potential treatment option for a wide spectrum of conditions from muscle wasting diseases (from age-related to AIDS or cancer-related), but is also has immense potential for muscle building for Bodybuilders, fitness, athletes and an agent to minimize atrophy during recovery periods from serious surgery or similar situations. On cycle support: PH/DS/AAS cycles can*definitely*get you the gains, but it can also damage your body in the process. Why damage something you're working so hard to build! Protect your body. Benefits - Liver Support - Prostate Support - Joint Support - Blood Pressure Support* Post Cycle: SERM's - These are considered a must by many for PCT as they have shown proven results when dealing with a suppressed hormonal system.* However be advised it is illegal to possess these items without a prescription.* These can be obtained for 'research' however.* Dosing can vary greatly depending on the SERM so please search your favorite supplement/bodybuilding board for recommendations.* Examples of SERM's include clomid, nolvadex, toremifine, raloxifene, etc. Spoon Feeding: spoon-feed \'spün-?f?d\ transitive verb : to feed (someone) with a spoon : to give someone information in a way that requires or allows no further thinking or effort
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you are my hero. I will name my first born in your honor
 
Op, are you going to lay out a cycle of something for us? Lay something out and you might just get the help you are looking for
 
Ok so obviously I need to start mild as I'm just beginning to get into supps of this stength. After more research, I came across the Cutting Andro Kit by LG Sciences. The kit is mild and supposedly good for beginners. It consists of
17-ProAndro, 1-Andro, Epi-Andro, and Form XT.
I will be following the dosing and instructions as given by the program. I have attached a picture of the dosage chart.

Also, my current stats are

6-2
207 lbs
15% bf

Let me know what you think of this. Thanks

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jake.miller23 said:
Ok so obviously I need to start mild as I'm just beginning to get into supps of this stength. After more research, I came across the Cutting Andro Kit by LG Sciences. The kit is mild and supposedly good for beginners. It consists of 17-ProAndro, 1-Andro, Epi-Andro, and Form XT. I will be following the dosing and instructions as given by the program. I have attached a picture of the dosage chart. Also, my current stats are 6-2 207 lbs 15% bf Let me know what you think of this. Thanks <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=113019"/>
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Now this is a good post and question! That said, this is a VERY light cycle as far as the gains you'll see. Def don't expect 10+lb of lbm from this but I agree that this is still a great way to get your feet wet. I'm not the ph expert by any means but I believe you may still experience some shutdown with this so you should have a serm on hand for pct. If you decide not to use it that's up to you but better safe then sorry.
 
jake.miller23 said:
thanks man. I appreciate all your help. Do you think the Form XT should be good for PCT?
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That should be plenty. Tbh. I don't like LG Sciences. I've done a couple of their products and yielded very little gains. Like boone said, don't expect much. Maybe 5 lbs and 10-20 lbs on the bench. But I think the form Xt is plenty. Not sure a SERM is necessary here.
 
jake.miller23 said:
Ok so obviously I need to start mild as I'm just beginning to get into supps of this stength. After more research, I came across the Cutting Andro Kit by LG Sciences. The kit is mild and supposedly good for beginners. It consists of
17-ProAndro, 1-Andro, Epi-Andro, and Form XT.
I will be following the dosing and instructions as given by the program. I have attached a picture of the dosage chart.

Also, my current stats are

6-2
207 lbs
15% bf

Let me know what you think of this. Thanks

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Good starting place bro. I would get a serm such as clomiphene to have on hand in case you need it during pct. Grab some daa for pct as well. Pct is the most important part of your cycle and is no place to take chances or be cheap. Keep us updated as your cycle progresses and we can help you out along the way. Good luck
 
Are you In the U.S. and have a credit card? I had SERMs and AIs in 2 days from IronMag Research. CEM and Hardcore Peptides are sponsors here as well, and you can find some good discounts codes for them. There are two ads for them at the bottom of this very page.

Like you, I am on my first PH cycle since the 90's. The *first* thing I bought, were the SERMs. Get one. I don't know about everyone else, but I occasionally go to my self: "Dude, you are shutting down your HPTA..." and get a little nervous - I would be freaking out without a SERM! :-) Get one.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Are you In the U.S. and have a credit card? I had SERMs and AIs in 2 days from IronMag Research. CEM and Hardcore Peptides are sponsors here as well, and you can find some good discounts codes for them. There are two ads for them at the bottom of this very page. Like you, I am on my first PH cycle since the 90's. The *first* thing I bought, were the SERMs. Get one. I don't know about everyone else, but I occasionally go to my self: "Dude, you are shutting down your HPTA..." and get a little nervous - I would be freaking out without a SERM! :-) Get one.
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Thanks man thats solid info. Will definitely get a SERM
 
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