First Cycle H-Drol

HeroKOR

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First ill post my stats, Im 22 years old, Wrestled in College and Highschool.
I want to get in to bodybuilding/powerlifting this the reason for giving this a go.
Bench: 275 (weak but the bench has little to no real life applications)
Squat: 365
Deadlift: 495
All raw i use no suits, no nothing

I want to start by using H-Drol from Competitive Edge Labs
After lurking this these forums for a while i decided to go with a 6 week cycle using the following dosages.
Week 1: 25 MG
Week 2: 25 MG
Week 3: 50 MG
Week 4: 50 MG
Week 5: 50 MG maybe 75 MG
Week 6: 75 MG

During the entire cycle i will be using both milk thistle and organ shield to help my liver.

PCT is as follows
Nolvadex (serm)
Week 1: 20 MG
Week 2: 20 MG
Week 3: 10 MG
Week 4: 10 MG
Also taking test boosters like trib or something else to help get my natrual test back up to normal.

Also i would like to know, since H-Drol doesnt aromatize and turn in to estrogen, it is necessary to have a serm? If there is no extra estrogen why do i need a serm for it or even a estrogen blocker for that matter?

I would like some feedback as to how i should dose the H-Drol and how to dose my PCT.
Also i would like to know where i can get my hands on Nolvadex from a trusted supplier i have some in mind but i dont know if there legit or not.
Please PM me with details on how to get my hands on Nolva or Clomid or even Torem.

Also i would like to know how well Cycle Assist from Competitive Edge Labs works as well.

Thanks for looking and once i get my feed back on this along with my products expect a very detailed log.
 
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If I may comment, and I am not an expert by any means, I have spent weeks researching and trying to learn as much as a I can before my hdrol cycle which starts next week.

sweet spot for Hdrol is 75mg or above I have found most common and it takes a few weeks to kick in for good results so you are under dosing your hdrol cycle.

Other things I have seen people add to their PCT along with nolva such as Test booster but not like Trib something like titanium or testpro, theres some other good products too. and cortisol blockers. Just food for thought.

I think the serm is a good idea after asking tons of people on here who know far more than I do that has been the consensus
 
I see, I was a bit weery on upping the dosage but alotta people do 50/50/50/75/75/75, you think that's better or should i go up?

Also ive been hearing great things about D Aspartic Acid and Lean xtreme to control the cortisol.
 
start at 50mg or atleast make it 2nd week, 25mg will do next to nothing.

Congrats on deciding on a SERM yes you need it, post cycle you will experience estrogen issues as the body tries to return to homeostasis, this is what the nolva is for.
 
HeroKOR said:
First ill post my stats, Im 22 years old, Wrestled in College and Highschool.
I want to get in to bodybuilding/powerlifting this the reason for giving this a go.
Bench: 275 (weak but the bench has little to no real life applications)
Squat: 365
Deadlift: 495
All raw i use no suits, no nothing

I want to start by using H-Drol from Competitive Edge Labs
After lurking this these forums for a while i decided to go with a 6 week cycle using the following dosages.
Week 1: 25 MG
Week 2: 25 MG
Week 3: 50 MG
Week 4: 50 MG
Week 5: 50 MG maybe 75 MG
Week 6: 75 MG

During the entire cycle i will be using both milk thistle and organ shield to help my liver.

PCT is as follows
Nolvadex (serm)
Week 1: 20 MG
Week 2: 20 MG
Week 3: 10 MG
Week 4: 10 MG
Also taking test boosters like trib or something else to help get my natrual test back up to normal.

Also i would like to know, since H-Drol doesnt aromatize and turn in to estrogen, it is necessary to have a serm? If there is no extra estrogen why do i need a serm for it or even a estrogen blocker for that matter?

I would like some feedback as to how i should dose the H-Drol and how to dose my PCT.
Also i would like to know where i can get my hands on Nolvadex from a trusted supplier i have some in mind but i dont know if there legit or not.
Please PM me with details on how to get my hands on Nolva or Clomid or even Torem.

Also i would like to know how well Cycle Assist from Competitive Edge Labs works as well.

Thanks for looking and once i get my feed back on this along with my products expect a very detailed log.
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I am mid-cycle for my first PH run and using H-drol. I am currently dosing at 50mg, but might jump to 75 soon. Just past two weeks here. I have a log going if you want to follow.

I have done tons of reading too. From what I've read there are basically 2 responsible options for dosing H-drol. 50 or 75. Yes you could go less (but most people will tell you that you won't get anything from it.) or higher (most people say that at 100 and above you are increasing your risk of sides and you wouldn't likely get much more off that anyway). 75 is widely considered the "sweet spot"

Basically, for a first time run I was advised to start at 50 for the first two weeks to see how how my body responded and THEN consider upping your dose to 75. Right now I am seeing results at 50 (it's just kicking in) and staying there a bit longer. However, I have tolerated the H-drol just fine, so I am debating increasing it soon too.

Discussion of sources is strictly forbidden on this website. Just use Google and keep reading stuff from the net. You'll find places. before you consider taking anything get EVERYING in your hands first! Don't start taking H-drol and then go looking for your PCT stuff.

Cycle Assist from Competitive Edge Labs is considered a quality product and used by many. I am not familiar with Organ shield, but you won't need the milk thistle if you take cycle assist as it is already a component of cycle assist.

I don't want to comment on what and how you should dose as there are people that are better able to answer that than mean and some of it is personal preference and we all respond differently to different compounds. It sounds to me like you are off to a good start, but I can tell you need to keep reading and talking to people with a high rep status.

Finally, tunedsports informative h-drol bible is an excellent summary of how to run h-drol if you haven't read that yet, you should. Again...google it.

Hope this helps

BD
 
nothingonme said:
ill admit im under 21 but i was wondering this. i started my cycle yesterday i didnt pre load anything but im taking milk thistle along with hdrol i am taking one hdrol in the morning with a milk thistle then at dinner im taking another milk thistle without a h drol. I am going to do this for the first week then the second week im guna take h drol with milk thistle and cycle support in the morning then at lunch take a cycle support then at night take a h drol milk thistle and cycle support. Is this good? or should i change somthing?
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No disrespect, but you should not be running PH's. You are too young for one and second I can tell by your post you need to learn way more about how to do it properly. Learn how to eat right and train right and get a good base before you consider it too. I say this for your own benefit! You said you started yesterday. If I were you I would stop TODAY before you go any further and *&^% yourself up bro.
 
Yes, stop now man! if you are only a couple days in it is not too late to stop yet.

H-drol IS a steroid

You have way more to lose than just a sub-par football season.

Look, you're best bet is to get thru this football season, and in the off-season go on a natural bulk. At your age you have tons of testosterone in your body. Most guys don't realize what a difference it makes (even for an old guy like me, let alone someone like you!), but if you eat a lot of protein and healthy carbs/fats...what is called a "hypocaloric diet" and train to push your limits every time you go to the gym, you WILL gain muscle. Basically find that point where your body starts putting on fat and eat just above that. You can gain about 2-3 lbs a month like this at your age. At the end of it you will be a bit fatter too, but you just shed that for a month or two before Football starts again. Think of it as a 6-8 month plan. Talk to any of the experienced guys on here and they will give you the same advice.

Properly taking steroids is far more involved than most people realize. There is a LOT you have to know first. It's not a maturity issue, you can't take steroids before a certain age for physiological reasons too, like for example, you run a high chance of fusing your growth plates early among other things.

Don't do it yet bro...just eat and train like a horse for half a year and watch what happens! Buy whey protein online in bulk and drink 2-3 of them a day between big healthy meals and you will grown like a weed! That's no Bull$417! Ask around the the guys you see with a high rep status and you can tell know their stuff.
 
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