First cycle ever. How’s it sounds. ?

[Jloz123]

Wanting to cut and liking to make some dry gains is possible... Here are my options.

1. Run Super Mandro & Andro the giant with Epi 600mg. Just concerned about 1 andro messing me up since I hear a lot about it.

2. Run epi 600mg with 11kt . Do I need base with this? And will I make any dry gains? Or just


3. Epi 600 plus DMZ 20mg with dermacrine as base.

thank you all for your help and input.

 

[Whisky]

Option 3 would give you the most gains but I’d run option 1 as a first cycle......

just my view

 

[Jloz123]

Option 3 would give you the most gains but I’d run option 1 as a first cycle......

just my view

Thanks hope to see a lot more replies and see which one I go with

 

[Hyde]

What’s your PCT going to consist of?

 

[jrock645]

Option 3. I dont see the sense in these super mild cycles. Not worth the expense or the damage imo.

And yes, please outline pct.

 

[Jloz123]

What’s your PCT going to consist of?

will be running cycle assist by competitive labs
Nolva 20/20/20/20 if needed should I get an AI? Just in case

 

[Jloz123]

Option 3. I dont see the sense in these super mild cycles. Not worth the expense or the damage imo.

And yes, please outline pct.

It’s my first cycle I def want to make so dry gains but also getting my feet wet into PH.

 

[Jloz123]

Option 3. I dont see the sense in these super mild cycles. Not worth the expense or the damage imo.

And yes, please outline pct.

cycle support...by competitive labs. Nolva 20mg x4 weeks. Do I need something like nolva for just androvar and 1 andro . I know I’ll def need it for dmz

 

[Hyde]

will be running cycle assist by competitive labs
Nolva 20/20/20/20 if needed should I get an AI? Just in case

Always have an AI on hand. Even if you don’t need any on the cycle, it can be helpful in PCT if you are gyno-prone. Best to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Exemestane.

 

[Jloz123]

Always have an AI on hand. Even if you don’t need any on the cycle, it can be helpful in PCT if you are gyno-prone. Best to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Exemestane.

thanks for that suggestion . I appreciate it . Will def get some of that

 

[Whisky]

cycle support...by competitive labs. Nolva 20mg x4 weeks. Do I need something like nolva for just androvar and 1 andro . I know I’ll def need it for dmz

you’ll need nolva for any of the options bro

 

[Hyde]

you’ll need nolva for any of the options bro

This! If you take exogenous hormones, your endogenous supply will become suppressed.

A SERM like Tamoxifen, Toremifene or Clomiphene will help restore balance post cycle must faster than relying on your body to just figure out the mess you’ve made. It will help you retain some of your new muscle gains and probably have you feeling better sooner.