First Cycle Advice

radiodude

radiodude

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I've got ahold of some pharmaceutical grade Test Cypionate and plan on starting my first cycle soon. I've still got to get some syringes, and Nolva for PCT, but wanted to see what you guys thought before I got started.

I currently plan on completing a 10 week cycle with 400mg/week. Since it's my first cycle, would it be a better idea to use a "pyramid" structure, say 100mg on week 1, 200mg on week 2 and so on, while doing the reverse during weeks 8, 9 and 10? I haven't read anything about this, but it's what my supplier suggested so thought I'd be worth asking.

Also, would it be best to stop using creatine until I begin PCT? And speaking of PCT, how long should I perform this after a Test Cypionate cycle? Seems like 5 weeks should do from what I've read. And would Nolvadex be enough for PCT or should I definitely incorporate a cortisol suppressor like B-Androstenetriol, and if so is this available OCT and where?

I just realizing how many questions I'm asking here, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance guys.
 
radiodude said:
I've got ahold of some pharmaceutical grade Test Cypionate and plan on starting my first cycle soon. I've still got to get some syringes, and Nolva for PCT, but wanted to see what you guys thought before I got started.

I currently plan on completing a 10 week cycle with 400mg/week. Since it's my first cycle, would it be a better idea to use a "pyramid" structure, say 100mg on week 1, 200mg on week 2 and so on, while doing the reverse during weeks 8, 9 and 10? I haven't read anything about this, but it's what my supplier suggested so thought I'd be worth asking.

Also, would it be best to stop using creatine until I begin PCT? And speaking of PCT, how long should I perform this after a Test Cypionate cycle? Seems like 5 weeks should do from what I've read. And would Nolvadex be enough for PCT or should I definitely incorporate a cortisol suppressor like B-Androstenetriol, and if so is this available OCT and where?

I just realizing how many questions I'm asking here, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance guys.
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i would run the 400 all the way through..
creatine keep for after cycle..
PCT -
Nolva - 40/20/20/10
Clomid - 150-100/100/50/50
Anti cort

add any test boost or AI ya feel like.. but those are the basics. Anabolics 2009 by william llelwyn(spelled wrong) supports the nolva/clomid combo.. so i do also
 
radiodude said:
I've got ahold of some pharmaceutical grade Test Cypionate and plan on starting my first cycle soon. I've still got to get some syringes, and Nolva for PCT, but wanted to see what you guys thought before I got started.

I currently plan on completing a 10 week cycle with 400mg/week. Since it's my first cycle, would it be a better idea to use a "pyramid" structure, say 100mg on week 1, 200mg on week 2 and so on, while doing the reverse during weeks 8, 9 and 10? I haven't read anything about this, but it's what my supplier suggested so thought I'd be worth asking.

Also, would it be best to stop using creatine until I begin PCT? And speaking of PCT, how long should I perform this after a Test Cypionate cycle? Seems like 5 weeks should do from what I've read. And would Nolvadex be enough for PCT or should I definitely incorporate a cortisol suppressor like B-Androstenetriol, and if so is this available OCT and where?

I just realizing how many questions I'm asking here, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance guys.
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I would run it at 500mgs/week throughout and on the PCT the above ^ looks pretty good. The nolva/clomid combo is good to go. And you do not NEED a cort blocker but you can use one if you like. It is good to see you at least know what you need to run the cycle. Creatine and pre-workout powders should be used in PCT.
 
juice3320 said:
I would run it at 500mgs/week throughout and on the PCT the above ^ looks pretty good. The nolva/clomid combo is good to go. And you do not NEED a cort blocker but you can use one if you like. It is good to see you at least know what you need to run the cycle. Creatine and pre-workout powders should be used in PCT.
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good point, i always use a cort blocker but its not necessary. and 500 is also a basic starting dose for many
 
I agree with Juice3320, those numbers are on point.

As a personal opinion, I don't like Creatine so I would drop that all in itself.
Also you should run the Cyp for 12+ weeks. 10 weeks is too short. 16 weeks is ideal if you don't mind rolling the dice :)
 
Right on, thanks guys. So if I end up running the Nolva solo for PCT because I can't get Clomid, should I up the dosage or run it the same way?
 
radiodude said:
Right on, thanks guys. So if I end up running the Nolva solo for PCT because I can't get Clomid, should I up the dosage or run it the same way?
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clomid is so easy to get, i dont see why you couldn't get it. lots of legit sources online. and it is very unlikely to find fakes, as it's so cheap, and easily accesable around the world.

but if you dont want to try, then i'd sugges keeping the nolva dose the same, but def. using cort control, natty test booster ( i like animal stak) and incorporating an a.i. towards the end of your pct.

if you dont know how to run a pct like this, research it, as it is a little more complicated than just running nolva/clomid.
 
radiodude said:
Right on, thanks guys. So if I end up running the Nolva solo for PCT because I can't get Clomid, should I up the dosage or run it the same way?
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there is a very common chem site that sells the combo of liquid clomid/nolva.

but if you dont get clomid..
just run the nolva 40/20/20/10 and have a good test boost alongside, i'll be doing that with diesel test hardcore and sunami
 
So the use of the test booster should begin at the same time as the Nolva/Clomid, which I've read is 18 days after my last injection of test cypionate, does that sound about right? Also, as far as a test booster, a friend recommened Novedex XT by Gaspari Nutrition, any opinions on the stuff?
 
radiodude said:
So the use of the test booster should begin at the same time as the Nolva/Clomid, which I've read is 18 days after my last injection of test cypionate, does that sound about right? Also, as far as a test booster, a friend recommened Novedex XT by Gaspari Nutrition, any opinions on the stuff?
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novedex xt blocks estrogen, indirectly raising test. grab a diesel test or a mass fx or some kinda test boost.
 
HCG should be used for any cycle longer than 3-4 weeks, otherwise testicular atrophy can occur. not something I would ever want to deal with. HCG is cheap anyway. you'll probably want to use some arimidex while on cycle too, otherwise you'll likely get bloated with useless water weight.

I'd run PCT for 5 weeks, then 2-3 weeks in is when i add the natural test boosters. and run them for another 2-3 weeks after my PCT is done. save creatine and NO stuff, etc all for PCT. you'll need it. PCT sucks.

make sure you get bloodwork done too man, if this is your first cycle this is your only opportunity to take a "Clean" baseline of all your health numbers like liver, test, blood pressure, hdl, etc. its' not much money and will be very important later on also very helpful if something bad happens, will give your dr. a place to start. don't be cheap, get your bloodwork done!
 
Yeah, I just got my bloodwork done about two weeks ago as part of a work-required annual physical. Definitely keeping a copy around. Great advice, thanks.
 
As far as needle size, dude who provided the Test said 18 guage, but my research online says 22-24 guage, 1-1.5 inches in length. I don't have much bodyfat so was thinking I'd go with the 1 inch.
 
Good reads here to heed, im a currently off to the docs to see if i can get sum scripps for my pct, and to get post cycle #'s. On that creatine i would wait till most of your pct is over, that **** wreeks havoc on the renial system after cycles, and can progress from there to affect other systems. There have been sum bad cases documented here and on other discussion boards.


**** forgot to hit the quote button, wuz quoting nevergonnastop.
 
Think I'm going with getpinz.com for syringes, seems pretty cheap and fast. Should I get double the amount of needles though? I rememeber reading somewhere that after I fill the syringe I should replace the needle before injection since it becomes dull after insertion into the vial and could cause more pain, although pain isn't really a major concern of mine.
 
Use the 18G to fill the syringe, then switch it out for a 22 or 23g to inject. You don't want to inject with an 18.
 
18g is too much.

I load with an 18g and pin oils with a 25g.
23g for some water based. 23g will work as well.
 
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