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[L.A.]

My bad on the cop killer comment; thought that was you.

There are a lot of assumptions being made across the country, and there are stupid actions being made by protestors that are VERY negatively affecting people/businesses that had nothing to do with any of it. It's just frustrating all around.

I don't know what happened exactly, and apparently all the "witnesses" don't either. I just tend to not immediately side with the criminal.

Youre exactly right, what the protesters are doing is not helping anything, again those are just mad blacks that feel like the white man is the devil therefor that gives them an excuse to tear down there city and if you say anything to them about it you're racist, those people dont speak for me as a black man or anybody else lol. Even i know what they are doing is wrong. But what you said earlier is dead on, i wasnt there, none of us were, their were two people and one of them is dead. Its just frustrating when its like everybody looks at it in the perspective of "cop vs thug", just because he had the uniform on doesnt mean hes an outstanding citizen and just because mike brown was considered a thug doesnt make him a bad person or a person who deserved to die that day.

 

[ax1]

Your friend should taken a dirt nap, to be honest. Sure he's better now, but that's in predictably when his goal is to go on a shooting rampage and take out a cop. If that were my neighborhood, I'd have personally taken the shot.

If you were referring to me there, that wasnt my friend. He was a kid from my school I knew. If you wanted to take a shot at him the way this situation was, I honestly wouldnt blame you, this was clearly a case I can understand. Anytime you can save a life, even your own enemy Ill respect you even more. The cops here took care of him professionally and the last thing they wanted to do is kill him even though their lives with full intent by the shooter was that they never go home again. They didnt make emotional decisions and try to get even, but rather made professional decisions which is what I think the job is all about.

 

[RegisterJr]

This is where it needs to be taken a step further.

Why were cops bugging him in the first place? Tax evasion. Why is the underground cigarette market thriving? Because of high taxes and the state/city want a part of their drug sales and the high cost is driving the underground competition (think prohibition.) $5.50 per pack of cigarettes goes to New York State, and a additional $1.50 to NYC. Cops are encouraged to harass civilians of silly petty crimes to further increase revenue (though tickets, and more tax dollars.)

As far as Im concerned, issuing a ticket is pure tyranny and illegal revenue creation. Cops should not have been there in the first place. Its not their fault, they are just doing their job but the point here is that this is an example of out of control goverment and their tyrannical policies that put both civilians and police in danger (though they were not in danger in the garner case at all) off of petty things that shouldnt even be crimes.

I agree with a lot of this.

If you were referring to me there, that wasnt my friend. He was a kid from my school I knew. If you wanted to take a shot at him the way this situation was, I honestly wouldnt blame you, this was clearly a case I can understand. Anytime you can save a life, even your own enemy Ill respect you even more.

Saving his life, if it were me, would be the last thing on my mind. I have a family that needs me, and I assume others around me do too. Honestly, I'd have no more respect for a person that would endanger themselves and risk their family having to do without them to save a life someone like that which was mentioned.

 

[fame126]

all we know is what the news reports. half the time it's biased and corporate controlled. we will never know the true facts all we can do is speculate.

 

[youngandfree]

Heres a few things, for 1, that wasnt me who said my friend went on a cop killing spree, that probably has something to do with the fact that youre not wearing your glasses lol. And youre exactly right, you can't compare the two cases, i was replying soley to ole boys comment up above which i quoted.

I never said there was a nation wide "cop-racism" crisis, you have your opinion, i have mine, i feel like if youre a cop youd be trained for situations like this. Sure they say he tried to grab his gun, how do you know that he didnt just swing on the cop and then the cop tried to shoot him, and like what im sure the average human being would have done, brown tried to push the gun away so he wouldnt get shot?

They said Officer Darren Wilson started running after Brown? So at that point, wouldnt it be a little more reasonable to pull out a taser and chase him down, and if like they say, Brown all of sudden stopped, turned around and charged at Wilson, then tase his ass. Its not like he was yards away, if somebody is feet away from you id say it would be pretty damn easy to hit them with a taser. He got out that cop car with the intention of killing Brown.

I guess you don't consider robbing people breaking the law. When you attack a cop, and get shot at point blank, the cop isn't just going to holster his gun and pull out his pepper spray or taser.

I don't care how poor your upbringing was, it still doesn't give you a right to steal from people. Then after you robbed someone, it doesn't give you the right to attack the cop, that you know is going to try to arrest you for the robbery you just committed. Plenty of people in the country that grew up dirt poor that never robbed anyone.

Mike Brown didn't deserve to die for robbing the store. He deserved getting shot when he attacked the cop. Its a false equivalence to keep stating he was killed because he robbed a store.

Why is it OK for Brown to "just swing on a cop" and the cop decided to shoot him instead of fight? Assaulting a cop is against the law as well. So Mike broke 2 laws that day, the worst being attacking a cop.

But you aren't willing to read the evidence, so carry on spreading the lies.

 

[thebigt]

Youre exactly right, what the protesters are doing is not helping anything, again those are just mad blacks that feel like the white man is the devil therefor that gives them an excuse to tear down there city and if you say anything to them about it you're racist, those people dont speak for me as a black man or anybody else lol. Even i know what they are doing is wrong. But what you said earlier is dead on, i wasnt there, none of us were, their were two people and one of them is dead. Its just frustrating when its like everybody looks at it in the perspective of "cop vs thug", just because he had the uniform on doesnt mean hes an outstanding citizen and just because mike brown was considered a thug doesnt make him a bad person or a person who deserved to die that day.

look into the prison system there are thousands of 'thugs' both black and white who are serving time for robbery, murder and various other crimes. to say that there is a conspiracy by cops to kill blacks based on the wilson/brown case is just plain ridiculous....btw-a 'thug' by definition IS a bad person.

 

[L.A.]

look into the prison system there are thousands of 'thugs' both black and white who are serving time for robbery, murder and various other crimes. to say that there is a conspiracy by cops to kill blacks based on the wilson/brown case is just plain ridiculous....btw-a 'thug' by definition IS a bad person.

I havnt said anything about race for 1, and i dont mean the literal definition of a thug, but what people look at a thug as.

 

[L.A.]

I guess you don't consider robbing people breaking the law. When you attack a cop, and get shot at point blank, the cop isn't just going to holster his gun and pull out his pepper spray or taser.

I don't care how poor your upbringing was, it still doesn't give you a right to steal from people. Then after you robbed someone, it doesn't give you the right to attack the cop, that you know is going to try to arrest you for the robbery you just committed. Plenty of people in the country that grew up dirt poor that never robbed anyone.

Mike Brown didn't deserve to die for robbing the store. He deserved getting shot when he attacked the cop. Its a false equivalence to keep stating he was killed because he robbed a store.

Why is it OK for Brown to "just swing on a cop" and the cop decided to shoot him instead of fight? Assaulting a cop is against the law as well. So Mike broke 2 laws that day, the worst being attacking a cop.

But you aren't willing to read the evidence, so carry on spreading the lies.

Haha lies? How so? These are all opinions, youre just as wrong as i am if i am wrong. So you think the cop just pulls up and says "come here son, let me talk to u" and michael brown just starts swinging on him? The laws are ****ed up, MIKE BROWN RAN from officer wilson, so for him to sit there and say i was in fear for my life because this kid was beating the **** out of me so therefore drew my pistol and pursued him with intent of killing him is beyond stupid. Thats just him being mad because he got punched in the face and obviously knew that within the law he could legally shoot and kill him at that point. He didn't HAVE to do that, he obviously had enough time to gain his composure hop out his car and start running after him, why not at that point pull your taser out, chase him, and when he turns around tase him?

 

[youngandfree]

Haha lies? How so? These are all opinions, youre just as wrong as i am if i am wrong. So you think the cop just pulls up and says "come here son, let me talk to u" and michael brown just starts swinging on him? The laws are ****ed up, MIKE BROWN RAN from officer wilson, so for him to sit there and say i was in fear for my life because this kid was beating the **** out of me so therefore drew my pistol and pursued him with intent of killing him is beyond stupid. Thats just him being mad because he got punched in the face and obviously knew that within the law he could legally shoot and kill him at that point. He didn't HAVE to do that, he obviously had enough time to gain his composure hop out his car and start running after him, why not at that point pull your taser out, chase him, and when he turns around tase him?

Apparently Wilson isn't the only cop afraid of being killed by an unarmed person. This happened in my hometown. A prisoner faked being sick to go to the hospital. He beat the deputy unconscious and shot a security guard who tried to stop him. Then killed a deputy that was looking for him during a couple day manhunt near Virginia Tech.

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Here's another case of an unarmed person nearly killing an officer in my hometown. A teenager kicked a cop in the head while officer was on the ground cuffing his buddy. Kid broke the officers neck and completely ****ed him up for life.
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I realize you still don't want to read the grand jury evidence, just want to spread your opinion on what happened and justify Brown being a thug. The grand jury papers spell out what happened. Not what the reporters and protestors think happened. But "just swinging on an officer" as you put it can be a matter of life and death as illustrated by the 2 examples I posted.

 

[ax1]

Apparently Wilson isn't the only cop afraid of being killed by an unarmed person. This happened in my hometown. A prisoner faked being sick to go to the hospital. He beat the deputy unconscious and shot a security guard who tried to stop him. Then killed a deputy that was looking for him during a couple day manhunt near Virginia Tech.

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Here's another case of an unarmed person nearly killing an officer in my hometown. A teenager kicked a cop in the head while officer was on the ground cuffing his buddy. Kid broke the officers neck and completely ****ed him up for life.
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I realize you still don't want to read the grand jury evidence, just want to spread your opinion on what happened and justify Brown being a thug. The grand jury papers spell out what happened. Not what the reporters and protestors think happened. But "just swinging on an officer" as you put it can be a matter of life and death as illustrated by the 2 examples I posted.

You cant just kill people just because your afraid. If you let cops be above the law just because they are scared I think things are going to go out of hand.

The first example, that sounds like the oldest trick in the book. Why wasnt he locked in some manner? I have to put some blame on the cop/guard for this, after all your dealing with a prisoner here.

There is occupational hazards that goes with being a cop, all we can do is try to minimize them. Thats what you sign up for.

Now, something else popped in mind that we will probably never get answers too. I question what Wilson may have said to Brown to incite him to approach him...its is NOT an excuse to attack a cop or anyone just because you had your feelings hurt, but being a cop you need to be professional (not saying Wilson wasnt, nobody knows.)

 

[youngandfree]

You cant just kill people just because your afraid. If you let cops be above the law just because they are scared I think things are going to go out of hand.

The first example, that sounds like the oldest trick in the book. Why wasnt he locked in some manner? I have to put some blame on the cop/guard for this, after all your dealing with a prisoner here.

There is occupational hazards that goes with being a cop, all we can do is try to minimize them. Thats what you sign up for.

Now, something else popped in mind that we will probably never get answers too. I question what Wilson may have said to Brown to incite him to approach him...its is NOT an excuse to attack a cop or anyone just because you had your feelings hurt, but being a cop you need to be professional (not saying Wilson wasnt, nobody knows.)

The first perp was in custody originally for robbery, so once again a "petty crook" that shoplifted and then attacked a cop.

Your comment about occupational hazards for cops is equal and carries over to someone that breaks the law.

There are hundreds if not thousands of examples of unarmed perps brutally attacking the cops trying to apprehend said person.

If you commit a crime and are willing to attack the cops arresting you, instead of manning up and taking the consequences for being a thug, then you deserve whatever happens to you.

People keep making it out that Wilson got out of his car and shot Brown while he was just walking down the street minding his own business.

 

[ax1]

The first perp was in custody originally for robbery, so once again a "petty crook" that shoplifted and then attacked a cop.

Your comment about occupational hazards for cops is equal and carries over to someone that breaks the law.

There are hundreds if not thousands of examples of unarmed perps brutally attacking the cops trying to apprehend said person.

If you commit a crime and are willing to attack the cops arresting you, instead of manning up and taking the consequences for being a thug, then you deserve whatever happens to you.

People keep making it out that Wilson got out of his car and shot Brown while he was just walking down the street minding his own business.

Cops break laws too, and there are cops who are thugs too. I do think the average cop is good person, dont mistake it.

Cops arent the judge and jury, we have a 6th amendment you know. Cops just need to do their job professionally and make it they oblige to their Constitutional oath and make it that the "suspect" is given their due process, which of course in some cases its understandably not possible to take it that far.

The problem I have with cops is not the cops, but the fact many, if not most are bureaucrats of an unconstitutional system. Such as carrying out orders to harass over tax evasion as seen in the Garner case, or arresting people over crazy gun control laws such as the decorated war vet who had empty clips that were too big in the truck of his car.

Anyways, I have a hard time defending Brown as there are too many questions than answers, Im really making general statements about policing problems in general and how this event may have been the real trigger for the overall unrest as there is alot of distrust with law enforcement and understandably so.

 

[ax1]

Why aren't we talking about the cop that got executed a few weeks ago? And the hundreds of cops, on duty and off duty, that are slain every year? Because we are a selfish, irresponsible society that wants to play the victim card. **** Michael Brown. I'll just go ahead and say that. He was an ******* bully and got what he deserved. You can't just go around and bully and rob convenient stores and then attack cops. Brown is the epitome of what is wrong with American society these days. People don't play by the rules, and then scream that they and their constitutional rights have been violated when caught. Why can't you look at the facts? And why aren't cops treated like humans too? Don't they want to go home to their husbands and wives and children too? Maybe if society quit acting like *******s and started treating cops a little better, then cops wouldn't be so prejudiced? Their distrust of thugs is a learned behavior, not racism. Don't confuse the two.

Why arent we talking about the 12 year old boy a few weeks ago who was executed by a cop just because he was walking around with a toy gun?

Why should I trust cops around my children?

 

[Abe Lincoln]

I just try not to walk around with a hoodie on while holding skittles and sweet tea.

Lol, but all seriousness I was raised in a middle class family and still very careful around the cops, which everyone should be. They carry around a gun and other weapons, so would you mess with a someone that wasn't a cop that had a gun? Good thing to know is your rights, no unreasonable searches or seizures, the right to not incriminate yourself, etc.

 

[ax1]

What the **** are you talking about?? That's all over the news. Everyone is talking about it. You're missing my point.

I missed it with intention, but sorry for the confusion. I should have planned that one out a little better, lol.

I agree with much of your post, I really threw out what I did to point out that there is distrust, disrespect and irresponsibility on both sides. If both sides dont figure this out and treat each other like humans, we will have only have more problems in the future.

 

[Piston Honda]

Poverty, not race, is the issue people should be talking about

 

[DAdams91982]

all we know is what the news reports. half the time it's biased and corporate controlled. we will never know the true facts all we can do is speculate.

I COMPLETELY agree with this. The only reason this is so big is due to CNN. Before any facts were ever released they and MSNBC cranked up the propaganda machine and caused a huge division in this country without having anything concrete to actually report on.

The 24H news cycle has been extremely detrimental to our social economies create an aggressor/victim mentality.

It saddens me coming from 8 years in the service, where i was overseas most of the time and it was nothing but brotherhood. The moment I returned and flipped on the national news networks it really began to pain me.

 

[DAdams91982]

You cant just kill people just because your afraid. If you let cops be above the law just because they are scared I think things are going to go out of hand.

The first example, that sounds like the oldest trick in the book. Why wasnt he locked in some manner? I have to put some blame on the cop/guard for this, after all your dealing with a prisoner here.

There is occupational hazards that goes with being a cop, all we can do is try to minimize them. Thats what you sign up for.

Now, something else popped in mind that we will probably never get answers too. I question what Wilson may have said to Brown to incite him to approach him...its is NOT an excuse to attack a cop or anyone just because you had your feelings hurt, but being a cop you need to be professional (not saying Wilson wasnt, nobody knows.)

You are really stretching the context here. Being afraid and afraid for your life are two different things. I don't care if you are judge, president, congressman, trash man, accountant or a cook at mcdonalds, you have every right no matter what profession to go home safe at night. No one was above the law here, a cops job is not to ignore incidents it is do confront them head on, that is the occupational hazard, but the moment someone gets froggy, then all bets are off. Again, this is coming from a service member who has had all the training in the world and placed in that exact situation. What you sign up for is to protect and serve, not to possibly lose your life cause someone wants to show their ass.

All of that exact information you are questioning is in the evidence released. Wilson stopped those two (Which by the way, Dorian Johnson already has a charge for Perjury on his record in Jefferson City prior to this incident) and told them to move to the sidewalk since they were walking down the middle of E. Florissant (A busy street). They didn't comply immediately then the call came in about the robbery previously with a description of Brown and Johnson and Wilson the went to handle that situation and Brown didn't allow him to exit his vehicle and went in through the window. All of which was corroborated.

While I hate the situation that has taken place, being in this type of event I cannot fault the officer for his actions. Again, tasers are almost useless, you miss you are dead, and shaking causes quite a few misses (been there) and God help you if they are wearing anything other than a tank top since they may not penetrate deep enough through clothing.

 

[thebigt]

I havnt said anything about race for 1, and i dont mean the literal definition of a thug, but what people look at a thug as.

if they walk like a thug, talk like a thug, dress like a thug and act like a thug, probably is a thug!!!

 

[thebigt]

You are really stretching the context here. Being afraid and afraid for your life are two different things. I don't care if you are judge, president, congressman, trash man, accountant or a cook at mcdonalds, you have every right no matter what profession to go home safe at night. No one was above the law here, a cops job is not to ignore incidents it is do confront them head on, that is the occupational hazard, but the moment someone gets froggy, then all bets are off. Again, this is coming from a service member who has had all the training in the world and placed in that exact situation. What you sign up for is to protect and serve, not to possibly lose your life cause someone wants to show their ass.

All of that exact information you are questioning is in the evidence released. Wilson stopped those two (Which by the way, Dorian Johnson already has a charge for Perjury on his record in Jefferson City prior to this incident) and told them to move to the sidewalk since they were walking down the middle of E. Florissant (A busy street). They didn't comply immediately then the call came in about the robbery previously with a description of Brown and Johnson and Wilson the went to handle that situation and Brown didn't allow him to exit his vehicle and went in through the window. All of which was corroborated.

While I hate the situation that has taken place, being in this type of event I cannot fault the officer for his actions. Again, tasers are almost useless, you miss you are dead, and shaking causes quite a few misses (been there) and God help you if they are wearing anything other than a tank top since they may not penetrate deep enough through clothing.

so a taser is useless if wearing a hoodie?



btw-wasn't brown wearing a hoodie?

 

[ax1]

You are really stretching the context here. Being afraid and afraid for your life are two different things. I don't care if you are judge, president, congressman, trash man, accountant or a cook at mcdonalds, you have every right no matter what profession to go home safe at night. No one was above the law here, a cops job is not to ignore incidents it is do confront them head on, that is the occupational hazard, but the moment someone gets froggy, then all bets are off. Again, this is coming from a service member who has had all the training in the world and placed in that exact situation. What you sign up for is to protect and serve, not to possibly lose your life cause someone wants to show their ass.

All of that exact information you are questioning is in the evidence released. Wilson stopped those two (Which by the way, Dorian Johnson already has a charge for Perjury on his record in Jefferson City prior to this incident) and told them to move to the sidewalk since they were walking down the middle of E. Florissant (A busy street). They didn't comply immediately then the call came in about the robbery previously with a description of Brown and Johnson and Wilson the went to handle that situation and Brown didn't allow him to exit his vehicle and went in through the window. All of which was corroborated.

While I hate the situation that has taken place, being in this type of event I cannot fault the officer for his actions. Again, tasers are almost useless, you miss you are dead, and shaking causes quite a few misses (been there) and God help you if they are wearing anything other than a tank top since they may not penetrate deep enough through clothing.

Im not a fan of tasers or pepper spray, thats weak I know where you are coming from. I was mentioning modern technology and science to take people out. For example (Ill just throw one, we can go on and on with this,) the CIA had poison dart heart attack guns (ln a pistol form) way back in the 70's where the gun would shoot darts that had toxins that would cause a heart attack...why not equip police with those but with toxins that simply knock the suspect out to sleep? Its really a simple concept with the proper technology, science and training, police never have to kill again or risk their own lives any differently.

 

[ax1]

if they walk like a thug, talk like a thug, dress like a thug and act like a thug, probably is a thug!!!

There are alot of wannabe's. Being a wannabe isnt a crime right? Just confusing, lol

 

[DAdams91982]

Im not a fan of tasers or pepper spray, thats weak I know where you are coming from. I was mentioning modern technology and science to take people out. For example (Ill just throw one, we can go on and on with this,) the CIA had poison dart heart attack guns (ln a pistol form) way back in the 70's where the gun would shoot darts that had toxins that would cause a heart attack...why not equip police with those but with toxins that simply knock the suspect out to sleep? Its really a simple concept with the proper technology, science and training, police never have to kill again or risk their own lives any differently.

I can agree on that. Of course it will be a two way street. Said toxin will kill someone someday and then you have a **** storm on that too, or it doesnt really work on someone elses body chemistry.

That is why Officers still carry the old trusty gun. No matter what, a gun will stop a perpetrator one way or another. Hopefully by the threat of force rather than the use of force.

 

[thebigt]

I can agree on that. Of course it will be a two way street. Said toxin will kill someone someday and then you have a **** storm on that too, or it doesnt really work on someone elses body chemistry.

That is why Officers still carry the old trusty gun. No matter what, a gun will stop a perpetrator one way or another. Hopefully by the threat of force rather than the use of force.

lol...drugs have to be adjusted for weight....hey perp how much do you weigh? stay right there while i adjust this dose for you, i will only be a few minutes!!!

 

[L.A.]

Apparently Wilson isn't the only cop afraid of being killed by an unarmed person. This happened in my hometown. A prisoner faked being sick to go to the hospital. He beat the deputy unconscious and shot a security guard who tried to stop him. Then killed a deputy that was looking for him during a couple day manhunt near Virginia Tech.

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Here's another case of an unarmed person nearly killing an officer in my hometown. A teenager kicked a cop in the head while officer was on the ground cuffing his buddy. Kid broke the officers neck and completely ****ed him up for life.
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I realize you still don't want to read the grand jury evidence, just want to spread your opinion on what happened and justify Brown being a thug. The grand jury papers spell out what happened. Not what the reporters and protestors think happened. But "just swinging on an officer" as you put it can be a matter of life and death as illustrated by the 2 examples I posted.

What you just posted and what im trying to say are two different things, mike punched the cop then ran, he didnt sit there and try to kill the man. I have read all the grand jury evidence, it doesnt tell me anything, because none of those people were there, The only evidence they have that could even see mike brown in the wrong was the gun residue on his hand, which goes back to me saying im pretty sure he was trying to not get shot so he was wrestling over the gun. Nobody was there but those two. Im sure he probably inticed brown when he first pulled regardless which probably didnt help. Im not justifying mike brown and his actions, just saying if officer wilson WANTED to do what he did in a less lethal manner he could have, but after he got punched, he had intentions of killing mike brown. He didnt HAVE to do that.

 

[thebigt]

What you just posted and what im trying to say are two different things, mike punched the cop then ran, he didnt sit there and try to kill the man. I have read all the grand jury evidence, it doesnt tell me anything, because none of those people were there, The only evidence they have that could even see mike brown in the wrong was the gun residue on his hand, which goes back to me saying im pretty sure he was trying to not get shot so he was wrestling over the gun. Nobody was there but those two. Im sure he probably inticed brown when he first pulled regardless which probably didnt help. Im not justifying mike brown and his actions, just saying if officer wilson WANTED to do what he did in a less lethal manner he could have, but after he got punched, he had intentions of killing mike brown. He didnt HAVE to do that.

ok...now put yourself in wilsons position, what would you do if someone did that to you?

 

[ax1]

if they walk like a thug, talk like a thug, dress like a thug and act like a thug, probably is a thug!!!

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And Im talking about everybody, especially the two in the front!

 

[Piston Honda]

No racism here with coded words, no sir. Not in this thread

 

[thebigt]

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And Im talking about everybody, especially the two in the front!

is obama really chewing gum....seriously!!!

it's kirk and spock from star trek!!!

 

[ax1]

is obama really chewing gum....seriously!!!

it's kirk and spock from star trek!!!

Yeah....China had a huge fit over that calling it major disrespect to the Emperor of the Universe a few weeks ago. They get their own people distracted with frivolous matters as well...they learned alot from the USA, lol.

 

[thebigt]

Yeah....China had a huge fit over that calling it major disrespect to the Emperor of the Universe a few weeks ago. They get their own people distracted with frivolous matters as well...they learned alot from the USA, lol.

actually i see their point...chewing gum, geez!!!

 

[thebigt]

a few facts....in 2009 police used deadly force 497 times


at 1st glance i thought damn!!! that is a boatload!!!


then i looked up how many times police made arrests for major offenses like murder, rape, burglary that carry a felony offense......1,000,639 times, geez!!!


that is over a million arrests made of people accused of violent crimes without the use of deadly force.

with all of the crazy, desperate, just plain evil people in our society that are armed, often times heavier armed than police that is a high...but not unreasonable number, imo

 

[youngandfree]

What you just posted and what im trying to say are two different things, mike punched the cop then ran, he didnt sit there and try to kill the man. I have read all the grand jury evidence, it doesnt tell me anything, because none of those people were there, The only evidence they have that could even see mike brown in the wrong was the gun residue on his hand, which goes back to me saying im pretty sure he was trying to not get shot so he was wrestling over the gun. Nobody was there but those two. Im sure he probably inticed brown when he first pulled regardless which probably didnt help. Im not justifying mike brown and his actions, just saying if officer wilson WANTED to do what he did in a less lethal manner he could have, but after he got punched, he had intentions of killing mike brown. He didnt HAVE to do that.

Once again you are talking out of your ass
First you say you don't trust the people that were called to testify to what happened. Then at the end, you emphatically say that you know without a doubt what Wilson was thinking.

Thanks foe being a good example of what's wrong.

 

[L.A.]

Dude, L.A. is an ass clown, plain and simple. He embodies what's wrong with our country. He won't look at the facts and just wants to blame white cops because he's disenfranchised with the situation. Folks like L.A. are never gonna change because they simply don't WANT to. It's much easier to always be the victim and play the "poor me" card.

Haha you're basically a waste of life to even make statements like the one you just did, you look retarded af and you might as well just stop talking and save yourself the embarrassment. I embody whats wrong with our country? Bro wake tf up, YOU are whats wrong with this country, not solely off your views on this mike brown situation, but because i want to "blame white cops", and because "folks" like me are never gonna change haha. Change how? Sit around and watch what i feel like is injustice go unannounced? Nah see you're always gonna be a bystander in life and die as one, whereas i dont hold my tongue on situations i feel like something else could have been done where i life didn't have to be taken. You just made yourself look like a dumbass and you didn't even know it. Good job.

 

[B5150]

Haha you're basically a waste of life to even make statements like the one you just did, you look retarded af and you might as well just stop talking and save yourself the embarrassment. I embody whats wrong with our country? Bro wake tf up, YOU are whats wrong with this country, not solely off your views on this mike brown situation, but because i want to "blame white cops", and because "folks" like me are never gonna change haha. Change how? Sit around and watch what i feel like is injustice go unannounced? Nah see you're always gonna be a bystander in life and die as one, whereas i dont hold my tongue on situations i feel like something else could have been done where i life didn't have to be taken. You just made yourself look like a dumbass and you didn't even know it. Good job.

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His point was that the death of a black teenager at the hands of a white cop was "the exception," and if the country is concerned about black homicides, then it would do better to focus on African Americans.

We will set the larger questions aside and deal simply with Giuliani’s statistic about black homicides.

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