Female Zero Libido

[Toff]

So my other half is on birth control
She has zero libido, we get around to it about once a month if we're lucky, normally out of sympathy.
Doesnt help the kids are home 24/7 but even when they go out, nothing.
Ive approached her she says she has zero drive. Its not me its not anyone, she has no drive for any of it, never been on pr0n site in her life, never randy.
When we do have it however she says "why dont we do this more often, that was so good" and i dont have an answer.

She says she'll get help but with the doctors being full of covid and not seeing anyone is there somthing that
a) wont interfere with birth control ( so presume doesnt affect hormones)
b) will boost libido

We tried my test boosters but all she did was get angry lol

 

[BOSSMAN]

Lil Alcohol to knock off the edge????

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

try about 25 mgs of DHEA per day for a month and see if that does the trick. the other thing that may help would be ashwaganda. KSM-66 is the trademarked name for it. seek out some of that.

first though, the DHEA, as it will literally convert into whatever the body is lacking.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

My wife and I are in a similar boat. She is in menopause, and her hormones are level. 0 libido. I dont think we have had sex in yr.

 

[Toff]

yeah the problem with ashwaganda is there are studies it affects hormones and not recommended with hormonal pills (as it so good at balancing them out,

With wome its all in the brain, the female viagra pill actually just helps brain circulation and was developed as an anti depressant initially... got me think ginko would be a good one, and the reason it helps blood flow, risk however is bleeding out or affecting the flush out of the pill (making it useless).

I kinda wish she was going through the menopause, then at least there would be no pregnancy issue and i have a zillion of studies for stuff that could be taken... just none that are pill friendly



i need an aphrodisiac that DOESNT balance hormones, DOESNT affect tesosterone or estrogen instead jsut makes her aroused initially.


larginine might be a shout, being non hormonal....



can anyone think of others non hormonal? 5htp perhaps... but i know st johns is known for failing the pil... maca too is a no go.

 

[Toff]

bugger - arginine also affects birth control as the estrogens decrease the respone of arginine on growth hormones

I guess if the new abs dont impress i need a new girlfriend....

or we look at alternatives...


Its dry januray... so no alcohol either.. dry jan = dry bedroom too

 

[sns8778]

yeah the problem with ashwaganda is there are studies it affects hormones and not recommended with hormonal pills (as it so good at balancing them out,

With wome its all in the brain, the female viagra pill actually just helps brain circulation and was developed as an anti depressant initially... got me think ginko would be a good one, and the reason it helps blood flow, risk however is bleeding out or affecting the flush out of the pill (making it useless).

I kinda wish she was going through the menopause, then at least there would be no pregnancy issue and i have a zillion of studies for stuff that could be taken... just none that are pill friendly

i need an aphrodisiac that DOESNT balance hormones, DOESNT affect tesosterone or estrogen instead jsut makes her aroused initially.

larginine might be a shout, being non hormonal....

can anyone think of others non hormonal? 5htp perhaps... but i know st johns is known for failing the pil... maca too is a no go.

In regards to your statement about needing an aphrodisiac that doesn't balance hormones, doesn't effect testosterone or estrogen, etc. - the problem is that aphrodisiacs normally work through doing those things; its normally how they work.

There can be a variety of reasons that libido can be decreased for females but the primary main 3 are:
- Hormonal imbalances or changes
- Stress/Anxiety
- Medication Related

Things like Arginine work in theory through improved circulation. I've never heard much success with regular Arginine for this anyway, but even the advanced types like Nitrosigine, they may enhance sensitivity and pleasure thru circulation but they wouldn't have any affect on actual desire itself. And from what you said, the pleasure part isn't the issue since she enjoys it when you do it; the issue just seems to be the desire to get started.

A lot of the things you're saying may affect birth control pills aren't commonly known to or thought to affect them; its more like one of those there's a super slight chance type of things. That's a decision that everyone has to make for themselves there, but I've never heard of things like KSM-66, low dose DHEA, etc. contradicting the pill.

You said that you had tried testosterone boosters and it just made her angry. I would say it would depend on which ones you tried. Certain ones I wouldn't have females try but then others may work well. We have had some good feedback from women taking 1 capsule of Spilanthes XT per day for example. It's a natural testosterone booster and also enhances circulation and the raw material has been shown in studies to help with firmer erections so in theory, the same method of action may apply to clitoral stimulation and circulation.

I wish you the best of luck. You're in a tough spot bc you've ruled out most of what I would consider the best options to try.

My general thoughts on the subject for anyone reading (not specific to you) would be:
- KSM-66 is a great ingredient for helping with stress and anxiety and it can have somewhat of a hormonal optimization effect in women so I would give that a try; either solo or as part of an overall supplement regimen. We offer a KSM-66 that is 695 mg. so it's a one pill a day formula.
- DHEA is a good option for some women. For a female, I would start at 5 to 10 mg.
- Spilanthes XT gets some good feedback in this department.

There's been some discussion here on AM about our upcoming Libido Boost XT product. That will be a libido product for men that helps with several areas of sexual health. What I haven't mentioned yet is that if the formula stays the same as it is now, then a female should be able to take half the dose of it and it should work well. And also, we are working on a female specific libido boosting formula that should hopefully launch within a couple of months of it as well. So its a subject that I've put a lot of time into researching over the last 6 months or so.

 

[Toff]

In regards to your statement about needing an aphrodisiac that doesn't balance hormones, doesn't effect testosterone or estrogen, etc. - the problem is that aphrodisiacs normally work through doing those things; its normally how they work.

There can be a variety of reasons that libido can be decreased for females but the primary main 3 are:
- Hormonal imbalances or changes
- Stress/Anxiety
- Medication Related

Things like Arginine work in theory through improved circulation. I've never heard much success with regular Arginine for this anyway, but even the advanced types like Nitrosigine, they may enhance sensitivity and pleasure thru circulation but they wouldn't have any affect on actual desire itself. And from what you said, the pleasure part isn't the issue since she enjoys it when you do it; the issue just seems to be the desire to get started.

A lot of the things you're saying may affect birth control pills aren't commonly known to or thought to affect them; its more like one of those there's a super slight chance type of things. That's a decision that everyone has to make for themselves there, but I've never heard of things like KSM-66, low dose DHEA, etc. contradicting the pill.

You said that you had tried testosterone boosters and it just made her angry. I would say it would depend on which ones you tried. Certain ones I wouldn't have females try but then others may work well. We have had some good feedback from women taking 1 capsule of Spilanthes XT per day for example. It's a natural testosterone booster and also enhances circulation and the raw material has been shown in studies to help with firmer erections so in theory, the same method of action may apply to clitoral stimulation and circulation.

I wish you the best of luck. You're in a tough spot bc you've ruled out most of what I would consider the best options to try.

My general thoughts on the subject for anyone reading (not specific to you) would be:
- KSM-66 is a great ingredient for helping with stress and anxiety and it can have somewhat of a hormonal optimization effect in women so I would give that a try; either solo or as part of an overall supplement regimen. We offer a KSM-66 that is 695 mg. so it's a one pill a day formula.
- DHEA is a good option for some women. For a female, I would start at 5 to 10 mg.
- Spilanthes XT gets some good feedback in this department.

There's been some discussion here on AM about our upcoming Libido Boost XT product. That will be a libido product for men that helps with several areas of sexual health. What I haven't mentioned yet is that if the formula stays the same as it is now, then a female should be able to take half the dose of it and it should work well. And also, we are working on a female specific libido boosting formula that should hopefully launch within a couple of months of it as well. So its a subject that I've put a lot of time into researching over the last 6 months or so.

Thanks for that, I think Ive read every article on pubmed today

I cant imagine herbs in normal doses should affect her hormones so much when so many test boosters fail to help us?

I did find a GEM just now however, Ginseng and Ginko i know work well for me and constantly studied. They checked if it affects the absorption of these hormones and medications concluding it did not (like st johns wort)

Ginseng, Ginko Biloba Do Not Interfere With Drug Absorption If Taken At Recommended Doses

Daily use of ginseng or ginkgo biloba supplements at the recommended doses, or the combination of both supplements, are unlikely to alter the pharmacokinetics -- by which drugs are absorbed, distributed, metabolized, and eliminated by the body -- of the majority of prescription or...

www.sciencedaily.com

Id like to understand dhea however as the articles suggest low dose DHEA can normalise testosterone in those on C.O.C's and that then would boost libido and normal functions...

what it doesnt mention is whether that then stops the pills from working.


Ive come across Safed Musli which is known for its tesosterone boosting ability but no word on anything else so its an unknown.

Ill digest what you have posted and see if we can just go with low dose SOMETHING... dhea id be intrigued about

 

[sns8778]

Thanks for that, I think Ive read every article on pubmed today

I cant imagine herbs in normal doses should affect her hormones so much when so many test boosters fail to help us?

I did find a GEM just now however, Ginseng and Ginko i know work well for me and constantly studied. They checked if it affects the absorption of these hormones and medications concluding it did not (like st johns wort)

Ginseng, Ginko Biloba Do Not Interfere With Drug Absorption If Taken At Recommended Doses

Daily use of ginseng or ginkgo biloba supplements at the recommended doses, or the combination of both supplements, are unlikely to alter the pharmacokinetics -- by which drugs are absorbed, distributed, metabolized, and eliminated by the body -- of the majority of prescription or...

www.sciencedaily.com

Id like to understand dhea however as the articles suggest low dose DHEA can normalise testosterone in those on C.O.C's and that then would boost libido and normal functions...

what it doesnt mention is whether that then stops the pills from working.


Ive come across Safed Musli which is known for its tesosterone boosting ability but no word on anything else so its an unknown.

Ill digest what you have posted and see if we can just go with low dose SOMETHING... dhea id be intrigued about

A lot of times you won't find information on whether an ingredient will interfere with birth control bc the study authors don't know for sure and don't want to guess at something like that because there are so many types of birth control and so many variables. For example, maybe it wouldn't normally but if a female takes ingredient xyz and then medication zyx, then maybe it would. I hope that makes sense.

If you start off with DHEA for her, I would suggest starting low dose like 5 to 10 mg. 25 mg. imo is too high to start most females on.

 

[Toff]

yep will take a look

Im also seeing a correlation between depression and libido... b vitamins and zinc deficiency due to the pill... which if boosted helps libido (just google zma and libido)

So, 5htp and ZMA could well be a winner here too

 

[WesleyInman]

My wife and I are in a similar boat. She is in menopause, and her hormones are level. 0 libido. I dont think we have had sex in yr.

DHEA is what we used in the medical field. This works in menopausal women very very well.

I give my female clients 25-50mgs ED. As you know DHEA is a prohormone to testosterone and it works well in females for this very reason.

We sell a product called "TESTROZONE" over at MuscleGELZ which I believe we are still a sponsor here as well. Sister to Iron Mag Labs. Our product has DHEA, D3 (also converts to T), horny goat weed + Laxogenin. Anyways I use this in my female clients for libido specifically.

TESTROZONE – Muscle Gelz Topical Enhancement

www.musclegelz.com

Code WES15 as usual works for discount

 

[match]

They say foreplay starts at breakfast; I know you're looking for science answers, but have you tried picking a day and just focusing on making it extra special and lovely for her?

Romance is so important for women in a relationship. Many women are probably in relationships where there is zero effort in that department, and sadly a good amount of them never speak up (if they even recognize what's lacking at all).

I'm not saying that your relationship is lacking these things (if nothing else I'm giving myself a little reminder/peptalk here I'm just saying that if you haven't given these things a try: they certainly won't hurt your chances!

Go someplace new, or somewhere that you made an intimate memory at. Tell her she's beautiful, but more than that, tell her what's unique about her that you find irresistible. If nothing else, you'll give her memories that she can cherish and that she can tell all of her friends about (to make em jealous).

 

[kisaj]

Honestly, there is no way we can really help here because there are so many options for female birth control and each can affect the ladies in a different way. It's up to her and her OBGYN to determine what changes need to be made. My wife dealt with this and we went through at least 6 different types of the pill before finding one that moved the needle into more of the positive side of libido while not making her a hormonal monster. It's tricky and I think if you start down the road of randomly trying supplements, it might create more problems than you have. Plus, some could make the birth control less effective.

Focus on the positive- you have a wife that wants to be helped and wants to be with you which is more than a lot of guys can say that are actually having a lot more sex.

 

[ELROCK]

I just came in to suggest maca, Damiana and blue lotus (tea or extract).

 

[sns8778]

I just came in to suggest maca, Damiana and blue lotus (tea or extract).

I remember now that you posted that a female telling me that Blue Lotus Tea really helped them. Someone in my local area sells it on eBay and apparently people love the one this person sells. Anyone that wants a link, pm me and I'll be glad to find it.

 

[flintinatux]

@sns8778, how big is the KSM-66 capsule? My wife has an irrational fear of large pills. She doesn't mind swallowing very large bites of food, but if it's a pill, it better be smaller than a tic-tac!

 

[sns8778]

@sns8778, how big is the KSM-66 capsule? My wife has an irrational fear of large pills. She doesn't mind swallowing very large bites of food, but if it's a pill, it better be smaller than a tic-tac!

Ha. It's a size 00 capsule. Anything above 500 mg. goes from being a size 0 to size 00 capsule.

I don't find them hard to swallow at all, but everyone is different.

 

[Beau]

Buy her shoes.

Several pairs.

Avoid using terms like"cornhole".

Do not look at other women (seriously).

 

[thebigt]

from NCBI

'Tribulus terrestris for treatment of sexual dysfunction in women"

you might find this interesting.

 

[AntonyDiaz]

What's her age? Women tend to lose sexual drive earlier than men although that's still on their 50s

 

[Toff]

What's her age? Women tend to lose sexual drive earlier than men although that's still on their 50s

39, 40 this year

We do stuff ALL the time, we even tak epressur eoff go somewhere else at christmas, she was on her period that week so it was another no go - not had sex since 2021 (sounds dramatic, its mor elike November 2021)

Shes back on the korean ginseng for circulation and ZMA which she'll be deficient in due to the pill, ill see if that helps, if not i think a trip to the doc is in order and myabe myself get the old nads disabled.

 

[flintinatux]

Ha. It's a size 00 capsule. Anything above 500 mg. goes from being a size 0 to size 00 capsule.

I don't find them hard to swallow at all, but everyone is different.

I had to look that up online. And, uh... yeah. I take 'em that size all the time, but she would classify that one as a "horse pill".

 

[flintinatux]

On a related note, my wife has PCOS, which means her hormones are all out of whack. Too much T, not enough E, metabolic issues, and a big impact on libido.

I've studied a bit, and the recommended (natty) solution is supplementing with myo-inositol + D-chiro-inositol in the body's physiological ratio of 40:1. But she's hesitant when it comes to supplements, because she had a friend who took kava kava as a sleep aid and ended up needing a liver transplant.

My question is: where should I actually look for inositol? There are a few brands on Amazon, but I have no clue how to tell if they are to be trusted, or legit.

 

[Beau]

On a related note, my wife has PCOS, which means her hormones are all out of whack. Too much T, not enough E, metabolic issues, and a big impact on libido.

I've studied a bit, and the recommended (natty) solution is supplementing with myo-inositol + D-chiro-inositol in the body's physiological ratio of 40:1. But she's hesitant when it comes to supplements, because she had a friend who took kava kava as a sleep aid and ended up needing a liver transplant.

My question is: where should I actually look for inositol? There are a few brands on Amazon, but I have no clue how to tell if they are to be trusted, or legit.

I have purchased bulk inositol in the past, let me see if I can find the website. I have not been able to find IP6 in bulk, only caps.

 

[Alistair_]

I would get rid of the birth control pills. I’d rather have sex with condoms then not have sex at all. BC pills are bad for women’s health in the long term and she is risking a permanent damaged libido. BC pills increase SHBG and that’s how they screw sex drive.

 

[thebigt]

I would get rid of the birth control pills. I’d rather have sex with condoms then not have sex at all. BC pills are bad for women’s health in the long term and she is risking a permanent damaged libido. BC pills increase SHBG and that’s how they screw sex drive.

something to consider...

 

[Kronic]

did you get fat?

 

[mase1]

Very easy answer, ditch the pill.

 

[sns8778]

On a related note, my wife has PCOS, which means her hormones are all out of whack. Too much T, not enough E, metabolic issues, and a big impact on libido.

I've studied a bit, and the recommended (natty) solution is supplementing with myo-inositol + D-chiro-inositol in the body's physiological ratio of 40:1. But she's hesitant when it comes to supplements, because she had a friend who took kava kava as a sleep aid and ended up needing a liver transplant.

My question is: where should I actually look for inositol? There are a few brands on Amazon, but I have no clue how to tell if they are to be trusted, or legit.

NOW Foods and Life Extension are good choices for brands of vitamins and things like that that are trustworthy.

 

[love2liftkat]

Definitely some good pointers in here…not going to quote them all but here are some of my thoughts…
1- Definitely have her talk to her OB. She can get a full set of hormone labs that show her estro, progesterone, test, dhea, shgb… She may have to try a few different pills (or better yet, if you guys are done, get the snip like you said and she can get off the pill completely)
2- The mental side is not all of it but definitely a huge part…does she “feel” sexy? Has she put on any weight or struggle with any self image issues? Is she bored, stressed, anxious, just not thinking about it. The more the thoughts are triggered, the more she’s likely to want it. We are great at multitasking and compartmentalizing to where taking care of our family and life takes over the thought of taking care of ourselves mentally/physically and sex definitely gets pushed to the back burner.
3- supplements very well could help- but as you said, could interfere with the pill —especially if you don’t know where the “lack” might be stemming from.

 

[flintinatux]

NOW Foods and Life Extension are good choices for brands of vitamins and things like that that are trustworthy.

Thanks! I'll take a look at these.

 

[Toff]

Update - I got some high quality Ginko Biloba, ZMA for relaxation and b6 deficiencies in those on birth control and Korean Ginseng.

She pounced on me Sunday morning and was a hell of a lot more affectionate at the weekend, soon went downhill when we started eating rubbish high carb food in the afternoon so we will watch that one aswell.

 

[sillycibin]

IUD instead of BCP. low dose dhea and ashgwanda maybe. might just be more placebo for her. does she exercise? did she have a libido years ago? pre kids?