Female pct

Hmm. No bad sides from 150mg/wk prop? But no pct necessary. Have a female friend who gets scary on low doses or steroids. Her strength explodes and she keeps a lot of it with no pct. Jelly as well.
 
tnubs said:
Hmm. No bad sides from 150mg/wk prop? But no pct necessary. Have a female friend who gets scary on low doses or steroids. Her strength explodes and she keeps a lot of it with no pct. Jelly as well.
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Yeah I've watched my sister blow up. She's like I'll just take a few weeks off and start back on var and mast. While I'm over here with shrunken nuts and no libido trying to keep my gains in pct lol.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
No pct needed for women. My sister just takes breaks and keeps all her gains. Yes I'm jealous lol
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While this is commonly said it is not completely accurate there is PCT they should do but mostly not from a hormone perspective they should work more on managing side effects.

I pulled this quote off another site but it explains things well from a female perspective but I failed to get the authors board name so I can not give full credit.

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  1. Depression: MANY women report depression post cycle. I personally got it really really badly last nov, so now the last week of my cycle, i start cycling in 5HTP. You can also use St. Johns wart or valerian root etc...
  2. Estrogen Rebound: Granted anavar is a mild androgenic, it is still an androgen. Some women experience a slight estrogen rebound. I personally have ALSO experienced this...
    one way is to use a very very mild dosage of an estrogen suppressor (ie. nolvadex) to allow the estrogen to slowly level out as the Invalid Link Removed levels fall post cycle. (As ourInvalid Link Removed levels begin to return to normal and decrease, estrogen will increase post cycle, due to the fact that an aas does suppress estrogen levels a bit, so a suppressor will control the speed at which it increases- thus preventing a possible estrogen rebound!)
  3. Appetite: Most AAS tend to increase your appetite. This has a bit to do with an accelerated metabolism (increased muscle and protein synthesis), nevertheless, aas can increase appetite. With that said, I think a strict diet should follow your cycle.
    My reasoning for this is that fact that since you have an increased appetite from using an aas, now that that is over, you will continue to experience an increased appetite, but with no aas anymore. Basically saying that now that you are OFF, you will not be using all the calories/fuel as efficiently as when you were ON. So if you splurge like crazy, you WILL notice a rebound in weight and or fat. Get it Invalid Link Removed
    I HIGHLY recommend a clean diet for about 2 weeks POST cycle!!
  4. injectable b12 energy and recovery! "


As a side note I am not 100% convinced on the use of nolvadex post cycle as she suggested but rather an AI tapered down seems to make more sense to me.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Yeah I've watched my sister blow up. She's like I'll just take a few weeks off and start back on var and mast. While I'm over here with shrunken nuts and no libido trying to keep my gains in pct lol.
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:aargh: THAT is funny. Errrr, not really........ Mine went from adult to preschool in three weeks. I know what you mean.
 
harbonah said:
While this is commonly said it is not completely accurate there is PCT they should do but mostly not from a hormone perspective they should work more on managing side effects.

I pulled this quote off another site but it explains things well from a female perspective but I failed to get the authors board name so I can not give full credit.

"feel Invalid Link Removed should be considered due to these reasons:
  1. Depression: MANY women report depression post cycle. I personally got it really really badly last nov, so now the last week of my cycle, i start cycling in 5HTP. You can also use St. Johns wart or valerian root etc...
  2. Estrogen Rebound: Granted anavar is a mild androgenic, it is still an androgen. Some women experience a slight estrogen rebound. I personally have ALSO experienced this...
    one way is to use a very very mild dosage of an estrogen suppressor (ie. nolvadex) to allow the estrogen to slowly level out as the Invalid Link Removed levels fall post cycle. (As ourInvalid Link Removed levels begin to return to normal and decrease, estrogen will increase post cycle, due to the fact that an aas does suppress estrogen levels a bit, so a suppressor will control the speed at which it increases- thus preventing a possible estrogen rebound!)
  3. Appetite: Most AAS tend to increase your appetite. This has a bit to do with an accelerated metabolism (increased muscle and protein synthesis), nevertheless, aas can increase appetite. With that said, I think a strict diet should follow your cycle.
    My reasoning for this is that fact that since you have an increased appetite from using an aas, now that that is over, you will continue to experience an increased appetite, but with no aas anymore. Basically saying that now that you are OFF, you will not be using all the calories/fuel as efficiently as when you were ON. So if you splurge like crazy, you WILL notice a rebound in weight and or fat. Get it Invalid Link Removed
    I HIGHLY recommend a clean diet for about 2 weeks POST cycle!!
  4. injectable b12 energy and recovery! "


As a side note I am not 100% convinced on the use of nolvadex post cycle as she suggested but rather an AI tapered down seems to make more sense to me.
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Great info. Did that source have any How-to info for women as well?
 
Out of curiosity, have you ever cycled before or is test prop your first?

Usually women just taper at the end of a cycle if they do anything, rather than a PCT.
 
pappybay said:
Great info. Did that source have any How-to info for women as well?
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In this case it was just an interesting post I saved.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
This is true.
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This is true I have just questioned if it is optimal. While something may work fine It may also be improved upon to increase effectiveness.
 
harbonah said:
This is true I have just questioned if it is optimal. While something may work fine It may also be improved upon to increase effectiveness.
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I agree. I think most women just find it unnecessary though especially since they'd have to spend more money.
 
srblan said:
And I've heard that nolva and other drugs used regularly by men have very different side effect profiles on women.
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They do. Women get way more side effects on SERMS then we do. I mean estrogen is their dominant hormone, so just imagine.
 
The only repeated side effect I have seen with a number of competitors is rebound BF% and mood changes like depression so on. I cant say with 100% certainty the bf% is from hormone changes as most are running clen and or also T3. I can say I believe the mood changes are at least influenced by the hormone fluctuation they go through but fully admit I do not have a clear answer for how to respond to them yet. 5htp and so on seem to help though.
 
tnubs said:
Hmm. No bad sides from 150mg/wk prop? But no pct necessary. Have a female friend who gets scary on low doses or steroids. Her strength explodes and she keeps a lot of it with no pct. Jelly as well.
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I would be in deep trouble if my wife used 160 mg per week. She is using 10 mg per week with good results.
 
jerrysiii said:
Admittedly I know very little about female aas use, but isn't 150mg test per week a lot? This is male trt range.
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Yes. That's also why I asked if I was a first cycle, because it sounds like something that came from a male.

Not only that, but females really have to know what they are getting into using test at all. A question about PCT leads me to believe that may not be the case.

Edit: just realized OP is probably asking on behalf of someone else. Don't put a woman on that. 5 mg of var, maybe 10, once she understands the possible side effects, is plenty.
 
srblan said:
Yes. That's also why I asked if I was a first cycle, because it sounds like something that came from a male.

Not only that, but females really have to know what they are getting into using test at all. A question about PCT leads me to believe that may not be the case.

Edit: just realized OP is probably asking on behalf of someone else. Don't put a woman on that. 5 mg of var, maybe 10, once she understands the possible side effects, is plenty.
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My sis don't play with the gear, she doesn't look manly by any means but she's strong as sh*t for a woman. 20mg of var is nothing to her plus mast.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
My sis don't play with the gear, she doesn't look manly by any means but she's strong as sh*t for a woman. 20mg of var is nothing to her plus mast.
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Sure, but start out small, if you dont react to 10, go to 15, then 20. I'm just saying be sensible about it. Test for women is not a first cycle thing. There are only a handful of drugs that women should ever use IMO, unless the side effects for them are worth the upside. They really just shouldn't use androgens at all. Var and primo, fine, assuming your primo is legit. Maybe winny, though that can be hit or miss. Some women love it, some hate it. Maybe proviron, and maybe EQ. Not much more than that before you get to the really dark side.
 
srblan said:
Sure, but start out small, if you dont react to 10, go to 15, then 20. I'm just saying be sensible about it. Test for women is not a first cycle thing. There are only a handful of drugs that women should ever use IMO, unless the side effects for them are worth the upside. They really just shouldn't use androgens at all. Var and primo, fine, assuming your primo is legit. Maybe winny, though that can be hit or miss. Some women love it, some hate it. Maybe proviron, and maybe EQ. Not much more than that before you get to the really dark side.
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Yeah thats literally all she uses, she tried winny and that was too androgenic for her.
 
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