feeling lost with TRT

Tank77

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Hi guys,

So after nearly 2 yrs on shots and i tried all protocols for 2x wk to every day always kept dose at around 100mgs however test e I never felt ideal or looked great...infact I looked like **** as compared to how I did prior to TRT esp my face and head. I got my estrogen under control but still has the puffy cheeks and head and got over daily shots so switch to cream 10% compounded...first month was on 1 pump which didnt do much and as youll see my levels dropped alot! Then went to 2 pumps one in morning one evening for the past month and my bloods were done yesterday 2 hrs after cream application and my test has dropped rather than gone up ! But for the first time in 2 yrs my FHS isnt 0 and my LH is 3 now so it seems to me I have actually been in slow recovery from trt on the cream that my body isnt absorbing !

So now Im at a cross roads of do I stop TRT as I actaully like the way I look again but Im weak and smaller and seem to be sick with colds that I cant shake ( low test maybe ?? ) or so I try to go back onto shots again and use less so I can get my test levels back into a health range for a 41 yr old which would be low 20s .....my current level of 12 is that of a 70 yr old!!! :(

Didnt think it was possible for a 41 yr old on 2 yrs trt to recover but my bloods are showing some signs now what apart from hcg can I take to help me get back on my feet and elevate my test quicker ? clomid ? I cant use hcg as it gives me bad anxiety unfortunately...i also have anastrazole and arimidex but my estrogen is not very high so I could crash it trying to get test up ! Really appreciate some guidance gentlemen

ps. Im getting good erections but my urge to have sex is diminished at present
 

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Id go back on injections. I cant tell you how many times ive seen doctors underdosing men on TRT. They are afraid to write for too much or they are using outdated methods.

Doctors often write for testosterone cypionate. I personally feel testosterone propionate is the better solution. More frequent injections but it's easier to stabilize levels. Id ask the doctor about switching to prop. If he gives you a hard time see if you can find a different doctor. Good luck.
 
thx mate, I was hoping to see if I can keep recovering and start training harder using compound lifts etc to get naturally as high as I can manage but not sure as yet how far that will get me...time will tell! I just dont want the damn bulldog head I had on shots ...even when E was ok I wasnt happy with my appearance :( thx for the reply
 
so restart with say with EOD sml shots and use 1/4 anastrazole or so a wk...man I hoped the cream was the answer! :(
 
The problem with transdermal delivery is you don't know how much is really being absorbed. Ideally, a time release patch would help ensure an even and accurate dosage.

Ive always been in favor of short acting compounds. That way if something starts to get out of control you can get a handle on it. Ive had some pretty bad conversion issues myself with cypionate.

I have mixed feelings on how much AI to use and how often. You don't want to crash your E2 but you don't want all the estrogen side effects. When something goes beyond what we have prescribed, we call it breakthrough. Id consider acquiring some nolvadex and keep it around in case estrogen levels start to get out of control.

We think of our bodies as basically operating in the same patterns all the time. The reality is homeostasis is a big ordeal. Any number of external and internal factors are at play continuously.
 
There is no history present so how can one draw an accurate conclusion?
 
TRT is often a result of a deeper issue which is being masked by addressing symptoms. I can not tell you how many times I see this in clinical application. The approach I found useful in health related issues is reverse engineering the chronic illness through evaluating and addressing biochemical pathways and gene expressions by detailed history, symptoms and labs. The true pathophysiology is rarely never dealt with appropriate.
Real case:
“My hormones are a mess, I have no libido, I am fatigued and do not know what to do. Do I need TRT I am 22 years old. Please help I have high shbg and doctors have no clue why”

Upon further evaluation, he had long commutes in the car as salesman in Florida. The car was bought a while ago and was out of service warranty for several years. When they removed the cabin filter. It was covered in black mold which he had been breathing in 16 hours a weeks for past several years. The mycotoxin have been clinically shown to be endocrine disrupters. Cabin filter was changed, mold was addressed, cloths were washed with borax. Few weeks libido recovered, fatigue resolved. No need for hormone replacement. Problem solved ... common sense in medicine goes a long way. Doctor are not trained to think like this unfortunately. I do not make this **** up..
 
2 years you likely already damaged your system enough to need it no matter what. Have you been at or around 100mg/week the whole time? My dr started me at 200/week...
Underdosing and ignorance are very prevalent in the trt world.

I'd try a trt clinic instead of your dr if you can afford it. Or find a new dr. He should have you in line by now.
 
yes i was on 100 or a tad less...when i went to 120 on my own for 6 wks my psa shot up to nearly 2 and i was under 1 on 100mgs.....so to update my test is now at 12.9 nmol ...FSH off the charts and LH 3 which is low (0-8 range here ) but sex is great, i look decent ...erections have never been an issue and still great...sex feels better i feel ....been sick with a sinus infection the last 3 months so cant train much but when i did I did solid trainings with good weights and looked impressive . Just wonder if its healthy to have this test level at 40 ? i have a family history of heart disease and know low test isnt great for that
 
ok so all my test issues started a few months after my vasectomy...I always had test at around 25mnol and after 6 months post op test was 12 or 10 ish in bloods.....my Dr examined me and noted testicular atrophy ....some mens bodies attack the testes in an auto immune response post vasectomy , there is a name for this as I studied it and im not the only guy to have this problem, its quite prolific but most guys dont train or do blood tests so dont know a vasectomy has damaged them ....also to get a Dr to prescribe TRT in Australia is a miracle so I can shop around for Drs or clinics guys :(
 
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