fedor is coming back !!!!

Fedor has nothing left to prove. While I am ECSTATIC to see him fight again, he doesn't need to do it beyond love of the sport. He's the GOAT.
 
Rodja said:
Fedor has nothing left to prove. While I am ECSTATIC to see him fight again, he doesn't need to do it beyond love of the sport. He's the GOAT.
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How can he be the GOAT when he never fought the top tier competition?

Don't get me wrong, he's fought some bad dudes and he's good, but he never came to the UFC and that's where the best of the best have been for a long time.
 
booneman77 said:
How can he be the GOAT when he never fought the top tier competition?

Don't get me wrong, he's fought some bad dudes and he's good, but he never came to the UFC and that's where the best of the best have been for a long time.
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When he was at his best, the UFC HW division was absolute garbage and all of the top HWs were in PRIDE. He ran through all of them and beat them at their own game (e.g. Nog on the ground, CC on the feet). Nobody has ever dominated a division like Fedor has and there has never been another HW considered the best P4P fighter.

I'm not sure how long you've been following MMA because it's really hard to understand the greatness of Fedor unless you were following the sport at the time.
 
Rodja said:
When he was at his best, the UFC HW division was absolute garbage and all of the top HWs were in PRIDE. He ran through all of them and beat them at their own game (e.g. Nog on the ground, CC on the feet). Nobody has ever dominated a division like Fedor has and there has never been another HW considered the best P4P fighter.

I'm not sure how long you've been following MMA because it's really hard to understand the greatness of Fedor unless you were following the sport at the time.
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theres a link on pb to all his fights i have them even the 8 foot tall chinese dude hong choy or somethin like that iam at the gym when i get home ill see if i can find the link
 
bighulksmash said:
theres a link on pb to all his fights i have them even the 8 foot tall chinese dude hong choy or somethin like that iam at the gym when i get home ill see if i can find the link
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Hong Man Choi, but that was a classic NYE Japanese attraction fight.
 
Rodja said:
When he was at his best, the UFC HW division was absolute garbage and all of the top HWs were in PRIDE. He ran through all of them and beat them at their own game (e.g. Nog on the ground, CC on the feet). Nobody has ever dominated a division like Fedor has and there has never been another HW considered the best P4P fighter.

I'm not sure how long you've been following MMA because it's really hard to understand the greatness of Fedor unless you were following the sport at the time.
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I'll admit I was late to following but I've seen many of the earlier fights to catch up. I would've liked to have seen him fight couture or Mir (in their prime)
 
booneman77 said:
I'll admit I was late to following but I've seen many of the earlier fights to catch up. I would've liked to have seen him fight couture or Mir (in their prime)
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He would've destroyed both of them and that's kinda the point. It was always insert UFC guy versus Fedor. They would fall just as quickly as they would rise, but Fedor was always there.
 
It will be fun to see Fedor again, but he will get destroyed by any top level HW at this point. This is the same guy who got beat by Hendo and Big Foot.

He is most certainly the GOAT, but he is relegated now to attraction fights, nothing more imo
 
Some perspective on Fedor's wins and opponents ranking at the time:
AA #2
Nog #1-2
CC #2
Herring top 5
Sylvia top 5
Hunt top 10
Randleman/Coleman former UFC HW champs
 
AE14 said:
It will be fun to see Fedor again, but he will get destroyed by any top level HW at this point. This is the same guy who got beat by Hendo and Big Foot.

He is most certainly the GOAT, but he is relegated now to attraction fights, nothing more imo
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Crazier things have happened like Werdum becoming HW champ. Fedor's downfall was once he found out he could KO people with one shot. He become a headhunter instead of sticking with his incomparable Sambo. I used to love watching him leap in with his Russian hooks and fish for a trip or throw. It was truly art.
 
Rodja said:
Crazier things have happened like Werdum becoming HW champ. Fedor's downfall was once he found out he could KO people with one shot. He become a headhunter instead of sticking with his incomparable Sambo. I used to love watching him leap in with his Russian hooks and fish for a trip or throw. It was truly art.
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Agreed. He was fun to watch. My concern will be his chin at his age and if he still is the "one punch" head hunter. If so, most top 10 guys finish him
 
AE14 said:
Agreed. He was fun to watch. My concern will be his chin at his age and if he still is the "one punch" head hunter. If so, most top 10 guys finish him
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His chin should be decent as getting KOd by Hendo isn't anything that's shameful. Bigfoot was reigning shots, but never had him visibly rocked. However, he has to get back to his roots of being a grappler.
 
Rodja said:
His chin should be decent as getting KOd by Hendo isn't anything that's shameful. Bigfoot was reigning shots, but never had him visibly rocked. However, he has to get back to his roots of being a grappler.
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sambo is one of the best martial arts the training is diverse.
 
Rodja said:
Some perspective on Fedor's wins and opponents ranking at the time:
AA #2
Nog #1-2
CC #2
Herring top 5
Sylvia top 5
Hunt top 10
Randleman/Coleman former UFC HW champs
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my issue is with the exception of nog, most of that list is former champs... not the current... meaninig there was still better competition even at the time. I love fedor and will watch any of his fights, even the new ones where I assume he wont be anywhere near what he was, but in my mind his legacy will always be slightly tainted for having not been in the ufc
 
booneman77 said:
my issue is with the exception of nog, most of that list is former champs... not the current... meaninig there was still better competition even at the time. I love fedor and will watch any of his fights, even the new ones where I assume he wont be anywhere near what he was, but in my mind his legacy will always be slightly tainted for having not been in the ufc
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Did you not understand what I was saying? When Fedor fought Nog, CC, and AA, they were all the consensus best or next best HW in the world. He was actually the underdog when he fought CC. Again, look at the UFC HW division when Fedor was in his prime. Gan McGee was getting a freaking title shot for crying out loud. All of the top HWs were in PRIDE. Nog, CC, Barnett, Hunt, Kharitonov, Werdum, Aleks, etc. were all there and they all said that Fedor was the best in the world.

The landscape of MMA is completely different now than the mid-00s. Zuffa almost had to throw in the towel as they were hemorrhaging cash. Hell, they practically had to beg to get Chuck into the 2003 PRIDE MWGP and use it as a platform to get more exposure. If it weren't for Forrest/Bonnar, Zuffa may not have made it much less become the juggernaut that it presently is. Meanwhile, PRIDE was selling out baseball stadiums with the halcyon being Final Conflict 2005 with the main event the highly anticipated Fedor/CC fight. The buzz around that fight is incomparable as there is something alluring about the HWs and they were without a doubt the two best HWs in the world. Not even the buzz from when Brock was fighting Couture or Cain was close to that fights buzz.

Like I was saying earlier, looking at his record and fights don't tell the whole story of what was happening at the time. It's like looking at stats of former QBs and how their numbers dwindle in comparison to present day ones, but that hardly tells the story about the greatness of a QB. Passing for 3k yards a season used to be a phenomenal season. Now, that makes you a very mediocre QB.
 
Rodja said:
When he was at his best, the UFC HW division was absolute garbage and all of the top HWs were in PRIDE. He ran through all of them and beat them at their own game (e.g. Nog on the ground, CC on the feet). Nobody has ever dominated a division like Fedor has and there has never been another HW considered the best P4P fighter.

I'm not sure how long you've been following MMA because it's really hard to understand the greatness of Fedor unless you were following the sport at the time.
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I feel like a lot of newer fans only knew about him when he came into Strikeforce, which is when things started to go south. But the Pride days were just amazing.
 
I've always been a Fedor fan but I felt like after Pride was gone he should have dropped to Light Heavyweight to be more competitive.
 
booneman77 said:
my issue is with the exception of nog, most of that list is former champs... not the current... meaninig there was still better competition even at the time. I love fedor and will watch any of his fights, even the new ones where I assume he wont be anywhere near what he was, but in my mind his legacy will always be slightly tainted for having not been in the ufc
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You are obviously new to the fighting game ufc he division has always been a joke. Mir haha dude ****ing sucks
 
I've recently been getting into MMA when I came across Conor Mcgregor. Came across Fedor as well and he was a very interesting guy and clearly one of the best. How old is he now? And when is he actually fighting again?
 
Shasow said:
I've recently been getting into MMA when I came across Conor Mcgregor. Came across Fedor as well and he was a very interesting guy and clearly one of the best. How old is he now? And when is he actually fighting again?
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39 yrs old he fights this year probably an exhibition.

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He's lost his time in Politics of Russia,best move for him was to stay there..I guess he was missing punching body bags
 
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