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VS91588 said:
Lmfao I don't wanna start **** but if you think for one second he is natural you are misinformed. May be he never touched AAS or GH but he deff took Clen,t3,t4.. I'm sorry bro but does anyone else agree w/ me on this
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LMFAO at you bro, it's a shame people put limitations on what can be done naturally, alls they are doing is hurting themselves. That's 10 years of hard work, trial and error.
 
JajaNe20 said:
LMFAO at you bro, it's a shame people put limitations on what can be done naturally, alls they are doing is hurting themselves. That's 10 years of hard work, trial and error.
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LoL ok if you say so bro. Just cuz some bodybuilders do natural shows doesn't mean they are natural. My first show ever was a natural show and they didn't even test any of us and the overall winner was on hgh. And they don't test for Clen, t3, t4. A steroid test (blood) is very expensive compared to a piss test
 
Ignorance. Nuff said
 
JajaNe20 said:
Ignorance. Nuff said
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Bro ur probably the type to believe Ronnie Coleman is natural cuz he said he is. There's no ignorance in my part. Do me a favor my friend. Bulk up clean to like 220 and than cut ur bodyfat down to 6% and let's see how you look without AAS/Clen/t3/t4. I gaurantee you will lose alotnofnmuscle and look flat cuz you didn't have anything to combat the catabolic state you were in while dieting and adding cardio to ur weight training sessions
 
VS91588 said:
Bro ur probably the type to believe Ronnie Coleman is natural cuz he said he is. There's no ignorance in my part. Do me a favor my friend. Bulk up clean to like 220 and than cut ur bodyfat down to 6% and let's see how you look without AAS/Clen/t3/t4. I gaurantee you will lose alotnofnmuscle and look flat cuz you didn't have anything to combat the catabolic state you were in while dieting and adding cardio to ur weight training sessions
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Don't preach to someone who you don't know my friend. I don't want to do this battle, for I know what can be done. I am a natty competitor hence my previous statement " i hope to be on stage with him in 2-3 years." 220 to bulk!? I am 222 right now thank you and am at 9% (DXA scan, gold standard for bf%), but that can't be done naturally right!? Oh ya and I am 23 years old and have been bodybuilding for 2 years, weight training for 8. Have a good day
 
In other words, I have lots of room for improvement but have the size. Doug miller is the top natty in the OCB and probably in the word. People should respect his hard work ethic yet people flame him because of their own insecurities/inferiorties. He's 5'9 192 competition ready. I don't want to ruin this thread over bumping heads, let by gons be by gons.
 
i also think Reeves was awesome if he had the training and supplements we have today he would smoke his competitors my favorite Franco Colombu he had the size definition and strength in a 5-2 frame
 
JajaNe20 said:
Don't preach to someone who you don't know my friend. I don't want to do this battle, for I know what can be done. I am a natty competitor hence my previous statement " i hope to be on stage with him in 2-3 years." 220 to bulk!? I am 222 right now thank you and am at 9% (DXA scan, gold standard for bf%), but that can't be done naturally right!? Oh ya and I am 23 years old and have been bodybuilding for 2 years, weight training for 8. Have a good day
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i believe you, people just are quick to put a limiting factor on anything and everything in life. Those are the ones who never make it, keep your goals in sight and nothing can stop you especially if your driven and dedicated, anything is possible if you put your mind to it and no thats not an overused slander. It's sad peoples arrogance gets the best of them and they dont have the guts to get out and do something without fear of failure. keep up the good work
 
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