Well, let’s say you had a family, full-time job, and maybe even a part-time job that took up some evenings. You might find yourself in a position where an early AM workout is the only time you could consistently get to the gym. No one is arguing that it’s ideal, but for some folks it’s the best available option, at least for now.
I do 45 mins fasted cardio daily 7 days a week even off season. In prep I’ll do way more. Up to 3x a day cardio. For anyone wanting to add muscle tissue training fasted is absolutely the worst idea ever and it’s no debate it’s a basic concept. For people training for the purpose of moving around and getting healthy then sure why not at this point.
Because your fasted cardio is done for health and fat lost and the fasted state is beneficial for that. (I still wouldn’t do it natty as the body will more likely eat off muscle) I’m surprised you can’t see the difference? Your training will be several hours separated from your morning fasted cardio and by that time you’ll have meals in, a pre workout meals and nutrients ready to be used as fuel and your glycogen storage will be saturated and you’ll actually have what it takes to perform and nourish the muscles instead of eating them away.
Interesting conversation back and forth. Thank you for the feedback.
It's not better post workout. With a pre workout meal you're uptaking glucose directly into the muscle during exercise independent of insulin via exercise induced glut 4 translocation. This occurs even in diabetics with dysfunctional insulin signaling. This is ideal.
Look there’s no point where you’ll win an argument proving that training with a pre workout meal with simple carbs and proteins isn’t good and that training fasted makes sense.
totally agree
Point?
Thank you Rocket. Have you ever experimented with BCAAs or carbs preworkout?
Its not at all that silly. That "window" people talk about is much larger than people realize. Recent studies have shown that
You're not "eating" away muscle by doing a workout fasted. People drastically underestimate the body. If your last meal was at 8pm. Training at 4 or 5 am isnt gonna make your body "eat" your muscles
Many top athletes do it. The Rock and James Harrison (Steelers) have both said they train fasted from time to time. Just eat a massive meal post
I ONLY ever train fasted. Played D1 football, and wrestled in college. Never ate meal before hand. I would eat before games or a comp because those are hours long "workouts." Got to college I was 205. Gained and filled out at 230lbs, EVERY single A.M. weight lifting session was fasted.
We will never agree on this if the purpose is to develop muscle tissue.
but seems like a good way to toe the line
