Facts needed [1-AD]

turbo59x

turbo59x

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Listen guys,

I was doing reading all day at work, while basically I should be working.
After all i read I basically hit a WALL.
So please, I appreciate any informative replies I can get.

Problem:
I was reading a thread dated back in 2004 when 1-testosterone was not illegal.
I was amped to get on a cycle and order my supplements.

Stack:
1-test + 4-AD
Recommended dosages: 1-test: 150-250 mg transdermal, 300-500 mg oral, 500-800 mg oral as 1-AD. 4-AD: 200-400 mg transdermal, 600-1200 mg oral.



So basically, What is the best thing out there for a replacement?

Is this product legit and not a scam?
1-andosterone RD

NOTE::
sorry, i just subscribed and cannot post links to where i found the product.
It is listed at a1supplements.com
 
I used AMS 1-AD UTT (the dropper liquid version). I started to notice changes in the 2nd week (I was using more than recommended). By the 3rd week I completely lost libido and quit. It works but thats the problem with ph's. Might as well use the real deal test IM inj. Im up 21lbs and libido is awesome. Ill never go back
 
google 1-dhea for more information. it works.

for the second poster loosing the libido, get yourself some 1-test acetate and inject that, bet you'll experience the same sides. comparing teststerone to 5 a reduced boldenone is stupid and you should slap yourself.

yea, the problem with prohormones is they have the exact same effects as the steroids they convert to. know why? because they convert to the steroid. duh. less conversion, less gains/sides. more conversion, more gains/sides. nothing more, nothing less.

primordial performance 1t lv is another liquid version of 1-dhea.

lots of 1-dhea products out there, i'd recomend going with ams 1-androsterone utt 60ml, 2-3 bottles for a 4 week cycle.

having some test in there will help alot, but isn't a must. if you want to add 4-dhea, i'd get a coupld bottles of 4-ad utt 60ml as well.

andromass is a stacked product containing both compounds with their whole thing.

all in all, a 1-dhea/4-dhea stack is going to be expensive no matter what brand you use.
 
jbryand101b said:
google 1-dhea for more information. it works.

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Thanks Jbry,

I will do a bit more research on 1-dhea. Once i get a bit more info, I might keep the thread up with more needed information.

Also, What do you think about using "h-drol" for a first time cycle??

Thanks man.
 
jbryand101b said:
hdrol is "the" perfct first cycle compound.
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Niice, I am glad to see your support behind this.

Now, I read that it is very moderate in agronic and estrogenic side effects.

I was planning to just run ergopharms [6-oxo as PCT] In a 4 week PCT.
600/400/200/100. Is this sufficient??

Do you think I will need to use clomid or nolva, even though H drol is not that harsh ???

Also, What are some reputable online stores you guys are using?

EDIT:
5'10" 187 lbs.

Looking to make lean muscle gains and get a little shredded by the end of my PCT.
 
turbo59x said:
Niice, I am glad to see your support behind this.

Now, I read that it is very moderate in agronic and estrogenic side effects.

I was planning to just run ergopharms [6-oxo as PCT] In a 4 week PCT.
600/400/200/100. Is this sufficient??

Do you think I will need to use clomid or nolva, even though H drol is not that harsh ???

Also, What are some reputable online stores you guys are using?

EDIT:
5'10" 187 lbs.

Looking to make lean muscle gains and get a little shredded by the end of my PCT.
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hdrol may not be as harsh as superdrol, but that doesnt mean its not harsh. you will still need nolva or clomid and some form of liver support

we cant give you sources but you can google hdrol, halovar, helladrol or h stane. theyre all the same thing, get 2 bottles and run it 6 weeks at 50/75/75/75/75/75.

How lean and shredded you get will be determined by your diet, also dont cut during pct
 
A-andro RDs are legit for sure. Otherwise, jbry covered things pretty well.
 
jbryand101b said:
yea, i havn't used the rd's yet, so i just recomend the utt.

someday though...
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Well, truthfully, the UTT are probably marginally more effective, marginally. However, the RD's are much less of a hassle. Though, with that being said, there are some improvements coming in the RD dep't that should remedy all of this.
 
darsh89 said:
How lean and shredded you get will be determined by your diet, also dont cut during pct
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Hey man,

Wednesday is going to be my first day of PCT.
At the moment I am concluding my Hdrol cycle with a gain of 16 + lbs.
Also, I have been able to keep off any bloat / fat .

Any specifics you might recommend for my PCT ( related to training and diet ) ??
 
turbo59x said:
Hey man,

Wednesday is going to be my first day of PCT.
At the moment I am concluding my Hdrol cycle with a gain of 16 + lbs.
Also, I have been able to keep off any bloat / fat .

Any specifics you might recommend for my PCT ( related to training and diet ) ??
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reduce training volume slightly for the next couple of weeks as your body begings to recover. you dont want to over train during pct.

If you want to keep as much mass and weight as possible then up your cals by 150-200 a day during pct, but you may add some fat. If you dont mind losing some mass and just want to keep the fat off then just keep cals exactly where they are at
 
Sounds reasonable. Thanks for the tip.

This morning I dosed 10 Mg of Tamox Cit. / 3G of DAA .... later this evening i will dose another 1 mg of Tamox.
Along with my cycle assist spread out.
Is this a good way ?
 
turbo59x said:
Sounds reasonable. Thanks for the tip.

This morning I dosed 10 Mg of Tamox Cit. / 3G of DAA .... later this evening i will dose another 1 mg of Tamox.
Along with my cycle assist spread out.
Is this a good way ?
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i usually dose the tamox all at once before bed, but timing doenst really matter. same with cycle assist and daa, although i do daa pre workout
 
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