surazal said:if you use receptor grade IGF doing only small PWO injections can let people run IGF indefinitely.
full, daily dosing of media grade IGF will start showing lessen effects after roughly 4 weeks, although it varies for the person.
You should be able to gain from IGF-1 for longer by adding pMGF.surazal said:MGF won't really help you run IGF longer ... but it is synergistic.
there are alot of factors that determine how long you can run IGF
how high of dosage?
how frequent the dosage(ED/EOD)?
when are you dosing? doing just small PWO dosing usually lets you cycle longer
what kind(receptor or media grade)?
your body .... everyone is different
if you use receptor grade IGF doing only small PWO injections can let people run IGF indefinitely.
full, daily dosing of media grade IGF will start showing lessen effects after roughly 4 weeks, although it varies for the person.
Media grade STARTS at 70%. Receptor grade starts at 97%.TeamSavage said:Why would receptor versus media grade make any difference in this respect? You're still taking IGF-1 LR3 regardless. Correct me if I'm wrong, but receptor grade is about 99% pure while media grade is about 70% pure, making the receptor grade about 42% more potent per mcg. But both are doing the same thing in the body, and thus will induce tolerance through the same progression.
Pioneer said:how are you dosing?
BTW bro, I have done pMGF @ 140mcg per injection and am now doing it at 200mcg per, and the 200mcg per injection run is TWICE as good as the 140mcg one...Whacked said:Sun, Wed --- 150 mcg MGF
Mon, Tue, Thur, Sat --- 50 mcg IGF PWO only
IGF is receptor grade
Grunt76 said:BTW bro, I have done pMGF @ 140mcg per injection and am now doing it at 200mcg per, and the 200mcg per injection run is TWICE as good as the 140mcg one...
Bump the mgf to 200mcg and you're good to go. The results are so much better with 200mcg that 150 is wasting it.Whacked said:Sun, Wed --- 150 mcg MGF
Mon, Tue, Thur, Sat --- 50 mcg IGF PWO only
IGF is receptor grade
Hey Grunt, when using this dosing protocol what are the site to pin the MGF. I had read elsewhere that you should pin the MGF in the muscle to be worked the following day though with a 2/week schedule it doesnt really work? Is the pMGF systemic?Grunt76 said:Bump the mgf to 200mcg and you're good to go. The results are so much better with 200mcg that 150 is wasting it.
pMGF is totally systemic. I pin my right-side thigh, and some do it sub-Q with equal success.deftone said:Hey Grunt, when using this dosing protocol what are the site to pin the MGF. I had read elsewhere that you should pin the MGF in the muscle to be worked the following day though with a 2/week schedule it doesnt really work? Is the pMGF systemic?
Whacked said:I am loving my IGF/MGF cycle and don't want ot stop at 4 weeks
Whats the longest I can run it without problems?
It all depends how you are running them.Whacked said:Grunt, help a buddy out.![]()
no.dattman said:MGF inhibits IGF production so mgf really wont help you run a cycle longer, correct? Because its not going to upregulate receptors or help bring back your repressed GH levels due to IGF. The only thing that would help extend a IGF cycle is HGH.
Is my thinking correct with this? lmk
MGF temporarily inhibits production of IGF-1 while MGF is doing its job, which is to proliferate the myoblasts. After its job is done, then IGF-1 can rise.dattman said:can you elaborate then?
That is fascinating bro.NattyNow said:does the mgf inhibit natural production of igf or are you saying it blocks the action of any igf (endogenous and exogenous)?
i tried the mgf at twice a week 200mcg, and didn't get too much off of it.
this bottle i am using a tiny bit (30mcg) mixed in with my daily nutropin sub-q shot, and it definately is doing alot more for my body comp. go figure. i'll let you know how it goes after i've finished this bottle. i feel it is magnifying the gh fatburning or something.