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Extend, increase or save.......

Whisky

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Hey all,

Hoping to get some views from the minds of those with an anabolic inclination.

I’m 3 weeks into my first cycle, 1/4/epiandro plus mk677 dosed 340/340/1000 and 12.5 pre bed of the mk.

I’m using Sparta Cerberus (85/85/150 per cap) and topping the epiandro up with with primeval labs epiandro max.

I’m really enjoying myself, no sides, great training sessions, just starting to see some proper strength gains, 6lbs up with minor reduction in bf (around 14%).

I want to make the most (as in maximise gains) of what I’ve brought, and it gives me three options that I can see - would you be so kind as to let me know the best:

1) Extend - i have exactly enough to run these doses to 10 weeks. Will I continue gaining in weeks 9&10 and how much is that likely to affect the speed at which I return to normal?

2) Increase - it’s also exactly enough to increase the dosing to 510/510/1000 for the second 4 weeks (hence why I’m asking now as I’m only a week from that point). With the Cerberus being an all in one I’d have to increase the 4-andro as well as the 1-andro (otherwise would just increase the 1-andro).
Should be noted I do have exem on hand....does this option offer potential for greater gains?

3) if the above two options would really be a case of diminishing returns and the extra gains minimal then I could also save the leftovers for a future run. It would mean I could run the same again but only need to buy 2 bottles of Cerberus (saving me about $100 or £80). However, I definitely plan to take future runs up a notch so would want to add something into that cycle (such as nanodrol - that looks great). Would a 1/4/epiandro cycle plus 4-6 weeks of something stronger (no issue with using methyl either) be a worthwhile exercise?

To confirm I have plenty of all supports to cover any option and loads of clomid, nolva and exem.

I’m 36, 6’1” 204lbs and been training 5 years.

So, what do you fine people think?
 
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Basically, you’re just asking if you should either extend your cycle and maintain the dosage or just bump the dosage up a bit instead, right? How long would the cycle be if you were to just bump the dosage up? Personally, I’ve never ran 2-step orals, but with both epistane and msten, I noticed that my results would slow down after 4 weeks. So in your situation, I’d just up the doss and run it for about 8 weeks.
 
Basically, you’re just asking if you should either extend your cycle and maintain the dosage or just bump the dosage up a bit instead, right? How long would the cycle be if you were to just bump the dosage up? Personally, I’ve never ran 2-step orals, but with both epistane and msten, I noticed that my results would slow down after 4 weeks. So in your situation, I’d just up the doss and run it for about 8 weeks.

Im currently running 340/340/1000 for 8 weeks.

To use the bottles completely i could either stick at 8 weeks but up the dosage to 510/510/1000 for the last 4 weeks

Or extend the cycle to 10 weeks at same dose......

Really wondering which (if either) would give the best results.. .?
 
Im currently running 340/340/1000 for 8 weeks.

To use the bottles completely i could either stick at 8 weeks but up the dosage to 510/510/1000 for the last 4 weeks

Or extend the cycle to 10 weeks at same dose......

Really wondering which (if either) would give the best results.. .?

I’d up the dose the last four weeks. Orals lose effect after a while anyways.
 
I’d definitely bump it! I ran 1 and 4 at 550 (up to 660 on the 1 I think) for the last 5 weeks of my cycle and loved it. That said, I can’t compare it to sticking with the normal dose because I’ve never done that. Only negative side I had was a BP spike during week 7
 
I’d definitely bump it! I ran 1 and 4 at 550 (up to 660 on the 1 I think) for the last 5 weeks of my cycle and loved it. That said, I can’t compare it to sticking with the normal dose because I’ve never done that. Only negative side I had was a BP spike during week 7

Thanks for the input. I do have extra hawthorne berry (in addition to whats in cel assist) so will use that to try and mitigate bp issues.

Totally makes sense that orals would start to lose some effectiveness so increasing sounds good. Im having a good run at the moment and want to absolutely maximise the gains.....
 
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