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Explanation on strength loss?

clint3612

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I'm an almost 42 year old natty lifter who's seen a huge and unexplainable strength loss on bench. I can typically do 260 or 8-12 reps. The week before I was weak and I didn't think anything but this week I only managed 3!

I'll eventually do a hormonal panel but are there any other explanations? My diet and weight are about the same. Surly I don't need TRT already???? I've been lifting a LONG time and never experienced this.....
 
Man, so many possible variables.

If it was hormonal, Id expect a big drop in levels. Like, 50%+. And, Id expect this to affect most/all your lifts and not just bench.

Did you change the time you lifted? Anything at all that could impact?
 
Have you been ramping up your training recently? Perhaps you are overreaching, and dialing it back for a little will bring you back to where you were, or even potentially stronger.

Also, how has your rest/sleep/diet been recently? Any stress (work, family, etc)? Has your mind been right to lift; after one bad workout, did you worry about getting weaker and psyche yourself out for another workout?

We've all had bad workouts before, even a few bad workouts.
 
Nothing really to add to the questions above - but was this just one work out? Or are you seeing a negative progression over many workouts?

It's unclear because you say the week before you were weak and didn't think anything but this weak you only got 3 reps - does that mean you felt weak but got close to your normal 8-12 reps, but this weak was a sudden drop? Or you've had 2 weeks in a row where last weak you did poorly and this weak again?

How have you been sleeping? Abnormal stress in your life? How long has it been since you took a training break? Over the last couple months, have you progressed in weight?

Like newagemayan said - it could be a lot of factors and hormonal changes are a big jump. Unless we are missing details of why you are worried about this?
 
One workout means nothing. Sleep, stress, anything really can effect it. I slept on my shoulder the wrong way once and my bench decreased 50% that workout.
 
So much could effect this. It could just be a few days where motivation changed a little and you felt weaker. I would wait and see the longer term implications of what is going on before you worry to much.
 
Earlier on in my lifting "career", I went a whole month with sub-optimal lifts; my strength died and I didn't know what to do. I had recently progressed, quite rapidly, training each muscle group 2x/week, from 80lb DB's for 8-10 reps on flat bench, to 100's. I was incredibly proud I was finally in the 100lb db club and thought I could keep progressing at a similar pace. Boy, was I wrong. Much to my disappointment, I only got up to 105's before my strength seemed to be zapped from me, and a month followed where I could only get 3-5 reps before burning out. I was devastated.

As NewAgeMayan astutely observed, there are myriad variables that could be affecting you. I will share what happened to me, and how I got over it, but obviously YMMV.

1. I had not de-loaded in close to a year. A "De-Load" is an incredibly important tool in any lifter's toolbox. It gives your body/muscles/CNS time to recover from intense, progressive-overload stimulation. You need to take a week or two (sometimes up to a month depending on how bad other stress factors in your life are), and train less frequently with lighter weights. I like to slow down to 1x/week per muscle group, and 50-60% 1rm. During this time I try to eat in a caloric surplus (at least 250cal+), and strive for an extra 1.5hrs of sleep per night. Sometimes it may even be necessary to take a week or two off from lifting entirely.

2. I had been stressed and not tracking my calories. Stress, even that which we don't perceive as something that should affect our training, can have seriuosly detrimental effects on CNS health and muscle fiber recruitment. Furthermore, it can murder an appetite. It turned out I was eating -500cals below where I should have been. These two together + over-reaching with no break resulted in a death sentence for my strength progression.

By taking time for a proper de-load, focusing on health (both physical and mental), getting extra sleep, and eating properly, I came back stronger than ever.

Taking an adaptogen wouldn't hurt either. At 42, a well-formulated test booster with a high-quality Tongkat Ali extract and Ashwagandha would probably do wonders for you in concert with the above suggestions. Not only will there be beneficial physiological effects, but a big part of your strength loss is also probably mental, and a good product like this can help you feel more confident, energized, alpha, etc. It certainly does for me and I'm 34.

In short, I'd recommend:
1. De-Load. Immediately.
2. Focus on de-stressing and getting more sleep
3. Track your calories STRICTLY and make sure you're getting enough cals and carbs for that matter.
4. If desired, grab a test-booster with potent adaptogens like Olympus Labs K1ng's Blood, which contains among other beneficial ingredients, 3 patented adaptogens: Eurygold Tongkat Ali, KSM-66 Ashwagandha, and PrimaVie Shilajit.

Be sure to answer these other poster's questions. Lots of good advice and inquiries in here so far. I can only say that, if you're like me, my prescribed solutions above will have you back to full-strength (or higher) in no-time.

Good luck!
 
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