Expired Epi

[Vengeance187]

Is Epi that's a year past expiration any good? Epi doesn't degrade into anything toxic(like creatine degrades to creatinine) does it?(not that it's not already toxic:silly
I plan on doing a Hemaguno/M-drol pulse, and the Hemaguno expired 1/09.

 

[MHA]

I heard that with time epi turns into phera. Don't know if its true.

 

[matthias7]

Try it and let us know.

 

[Spooly]

Is Epi that's a year past expiration any good? Epi doesn't degrade into anything toxic(like creatine degrades to creatinine) does it?(not that it's not already toxic:silly
I plan on doing a Hemaguno/M-drol pulse, and the Hemaguno expired 1/09.

nah i used some old phs before depends on how it was stored it only loses its potency if that. expiration dates just garentees the potency:drive:

 

[Vengeance187]

I just found these posts from Patrick Arnold:

epi may conceivably slowly decompose to dmt, although its probably so slow its not of significance

Its also possible that epi is not even the active drug in the body but merely a pro-drug. that is, it converts to dmt in the body and that is what is active. but i said that is only possible, i dunno

dmt is used to make methylepithiostanol.

and heat and low ph will catalyze the loss of a sulfur atom, which regenerates dmt

its pretty impossible to make me methylepi and not have at least a small part of it degenerate back into dmt upon storage i would think. cuz even at norml conditins you will still have the reaction proceeding. thats why you smell sulfur when you open the bottle

it definitely breaks down with heat to dmt. however any decomposition on the shelf is likely to be very slow

and besides, even if it did bread down to dmt n the shelf it would still be a strong product and people would not be calling it "bunk". Likely the bunk stuff just contained crap

So I guess it degrades into DMT(desoxymethyltestosterone?), which is Phera.
This could also be the reason some people have aggravated gyno when on Epi...