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you might want to alternate full deadlifts with rack deadlifts. the whole concept behind this lil switcharoo is that by working in rack deadlifts you train your body to handle higher sums of weight, so that you can ultimately enhance your performance on the full deads.

btw, what are widowmaker squats? i've heard this word used a lot but i don't know what it means

thanks for your thoughts

widowmaker squats are 20reps. thats my full understanding of them.

i started out only being able to do 135x13 doing many single reps before giving up.

last time i got 185x17. so im making good progress

some advise to do them on smith machine which helps do high reps cuz my back givesout before my legs do
 
These are the recommended ham lifts:

Hamstrings:
lying leg curls (15-30rp)
seated leg curls (15-30rp)
sumo press leg press (pressing with heels only- straight set of 15-25 reps)

Thats a bit weird to me b/c everything I have ever read states that lower reps are stimulate more growth in hamstrings.

Also on the rp sets, are you working 11-15 reps in 3 sets always? Or can you do say 2 sets, or 4 sets?
 
as far as the high rep range....it is a safety thing, DC doesn't want you using super heavy weight for very isolated exercises. save the heavy ham work for stiff legs
same applies for skullcrushers...it can be very bad on the elbows/wrists doing 1-3 rep skulls 20 seconds after ur previous set
DC is a smart trainer to say the least

also the rest pause sets are supposed to be in 3 mini sets...ive never heard of it any other way
 
Thanks mfbb.

So you can seriously only lift 3 times/week with this? egh

Or has anyone tried the advanced DC training:

monday=chest shoulders triceps
tuesday=biceps forearms backwidth backthickness
thursday=calves hams quads
friday-repeat of mondays bodyparts
monday-repeate of tuesdays bodyparts
tuesday-repeat of thursdays bodyparts
 
where did you get that from travis? I plan on doing my own splits and a few customized variations to DC. The trained guys from DC say you arent doing DC unless Dante trains you so the hell with it i plan on taking alot of the principles and throwing in my own style. For instance if i took your advance split you posted...You have less bodyparts so you could maybe go back to a different chest exercise after you finish with tris and do one set high reps to finish then back to shoulders then same with tris....as long as it wasnt too taxing.
 
honestly I did the DC 2 way/3 day per week split and it kicked the **** out of me. my CNS was toast in abt 6 wks. I'm not a noob either ( 5'8 220 fairly lean). i really was considering doing the push/pull/legs split as mentioned above, but I'm kind of straying away from DC as i personally find the stretches and the heavy rest-pause sets quite dangerous. i don't like the idea of doin 1-2 rep maxes on hammer machines after only resting 20 seconds btwn my last set.
it is a very sound program, i just feel it's way too easy to get hurt on. (however i could've just been overtrained, i may try it again)
 
honestly I did the DC 2 way/3 day per week split and it kicked the **** out of me. my CNS was toast in abt 6 wks. I'm not a noob either ( 5'8 220 fairly lean). i really was considering doing the push/pull/legs split as mentioned above, but I'm kind of straying away from DC as i personally find the stretches and the heavy rest-pause sets quite dangerous. i don't like the idea of doin 1-2 rep maxes on hammer machines after only resting 20 seconds btwn my last set.
it is a very sound program, i just feel it's way too easy to get hurt on. (however i could've just been overtrained, i may try it again)

yeah man you may be able to only do it one month than do a one or two week cruise. It depends on how your cns feels

I took a two week break after a month of it. and Ive been training non-Dc about two months before that so this is my first real starting point for Dc, with a break.
 
where did you get that from travis? I plan on doing my own splits and a few customized variations to DC. The trained guys from DC say you arent doing DC unless Dante trains you so the hell with it i plan on taking alot of the principles and throwing in my own style. For instance if i took your advance split you posted...You have less bodyparts so you could maybe go back to a different chest exercise after you finish with tris and do one set high reps to finish then back to shoulders then same with tris....as long as it wasnt too taxing.

There was a noob article I got it from on intensemuscle. I dont know about DC....maybe someday I will try it. I just like going to the gym too much and lifting 3 days doesnt sound appealing to me.
 
actually that is the exercise DC recommended for addressing shoulder issues/problems, even though i doubt most of us can take it to that extreme, or credit dat dere CellTech...

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actually that is the exercise DC recommended for addressing shoulder issues/problems, even though i doubt most of us can take it to that extreme, or credit dat dere CellTech...

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Thanks RX, yeah I definitely cannot put my hands that close and go that far behind me. I am trying to incorporate this as I seem to have a left shoulder issue.
 
Here's a list of DC exercises I've accumulated. Seems to match what I've read over the months ("rp" = Rest, Pause):

CHEST
incline smythe (11-15 rp)
decline smythe (11-15 rp)
hammer strength press (incline and decline) (11-15 rp)
other good machine press
incline barbell (11-15 rp)
decline barbell (11-15 rp)
incline dumbbell press (15-20 rp)
flat dumbbell press (15-20 rp)
decline dumbbell press (15-20 rp)

SHOULDERS
smythe presses to front (11-15 rp)
smythe presses to back of head (11-15 rp)
hammer strength press (11-15 rp)
other good machine press
barbell press to front (11-15 rp)
barbell press to back of head (11-15 rp)
dumbbell shoulder press (15-20 rp)

TRICEPS
close grip bench in smythe (11-20 rp)
reverse grip bench in smythe (11-20 rp)
skull crushers (15-20 rp)
dips (in upright position) (11-20 rp)

BACK WIDTH
rack chins to front (11-20 rp)
rack chins to back of head (11-20 rp)
reverse grip rack chins (close grip) (11-20 rp)
assisted pullups (11-15 rp)
hammer strength "pulldown" machines (11-15 rp)
other good "pulldown" machines
pull downs to front (11-15 rp)
pull downs to back of head (11-15 rp)

BACK THICKNESS
deadlift (9-12 straight + 6-9 straight)
rack deadlift (9-12 straight + 6-9 straight)
T-bar rows (10-12 straight)
smythe rows (9-12 straight + 6-9 straight)
barbell rows (9-12 straight + 6-9 straight)

BICEPS
barbell curls (11-20 rp)
alternate dumbbell curls (11-20 rp)
barbell preacher curls (11-20 rp)
hammer strength machine curls (11-20 rp)
other good machine curls
cable curls (11-20 rp)
incline db curls (11-20 rp)
close grip ez-bar preacher curls (11-20 rp)
standing medium grip ez-bar curls (11-20 rp)

FOREARMS
hammer curls (alternated) (10-20 straight)
pinwheel curls (alternated) (10-20 straight)
reverse grip one arm cable curls (10-20 straight)

CALVES (Enhanced negative, up on big toe, 5s neg, 10-15s full stretch at bottom)
calves on a leg press (10-12 straight)
standing calf raises (10-12 straight)
calves in hack squat (10-12 straight)
seating calf raises (10-12 straight)
any calf machine with a good range of motion

HAMSTRINGS
seating leg curls (15-30 rp)
standing leg curls (15-30 rp)
lying leg curls (15-30 rp)
stiff leg deadlift (15-30 rp)
sumo presses (pressing w/heels only) (15-25 rp)

QUADS
squats (6-10 straight, 3-5m rest, 20 straight)
smythe squats (6-10 straight, 3-5m rest, 20 straight)
hack squat (6-10 straight, 3-5m rest, 20 straight)
leg press (6-10 straight, 3-5m rest, 20 straight)
 
Here's a list of DC exercises I've accumulated. Seems to match what I've read over the months ("rp" = Rest, Pause):

CHEST
incline smythe (11-15 rp)
decline smythe (11-15 rp)
hammer strength press (incline and decline) (11-15 rp)
other good machine press
incline barbell (11-15 rp)
decline barbell (11-15 rp)
incline dumbbell press (15-20 rp)
flat dumbbell press (15-20 rp)
decline dumbbell press (15-20 rp)

Only thing I'd add to chest is Chest Dips, I like them better than decline barbell. But as compilations go, its a good one.

thanks.
 
warm up sets question...

if you log your warmups, i do... show me an example layout w/ weights including working set, on any given exercise. am i going too heavy on my warmups? im going enough to get the blood flowing, but im not repping to the point of fatigue, just stopping right before fatigue sets in... am i warming up properly or should my warmup sets have higher reps than this with lighter weight?

example: Pull Down Rear
WU 100x10 140x10 160x8
Working 180x 12rp(6-4-2)
 
warm up sets question...

if you log your warmups, i do... show me an example layout w/ weights including working set, on any given exercise. am i going too heavy on my warmups? im going enough to get the blood flowing, but im not repping to the point of fatigue, just stopping right before fatigue sets in... am i warming up properly or should my warmup sets have higher reps than this with lighter weight?

example: Pull Down Rear
WU 100x10 140x10 160x8
Working 180x 12rp(6-4-2)

warmup is implied lol i wouldnt write WU

160x8 is a stupiid warmup. zapps to much out of you if your working set is 180 ya dig?

i am no pro but if this was me doing same weights i would do

50xbunch get warm, 100x10, 140x3, 160x2, 180 or higher x Max
 
warm up sets question...

if you log your warmups, i do... show me an example layout w/ weights including working set, on any given exercise. am i going too heavy on my warmups? im going enough to get the blood flowing, but im not repping to the point of fatigue, just stopping right before fatigue sets in... am i warming up properly or should my warmup sets have higher reps than this with lighter weight?

example: Pull Down Rear
WU 100x10 140x10 160x8
Working 180x 12rp(6-4-2)

dont know if there is a right or wrong answer here; if i remember correctly DC is pretty vague on how to warm up, leaving it up to you to determine what you think is good for you.

for example, for my first exercise (one of the chest movements) I always do 4 warmups, then three for everything else. I tend to do a rep range of 10/8-10/6-10, but for straight sets I use the rep range for the SS, either 4/6/8/12.

My suggestion is to play with it, the one rule I keep is that it should not be a struggle to warmup. If you still want some examples i can certainly post some of what i do.
 
dont know if there is a right or wrong answer here; if i remember correctly DC is pretty vague on how to warm up, leaving it up to you to determine what you think is good for you.

for sure, thats why i was a little confused on how to ramp up to the working set along with reps, i guess ill back down on the reps as nyc said
 
i tried decresing the reps on warm-ups today... huge difference in working set... thanks guys... PR's all over the board :D
 
Simply put the best way to add mass, since I do not have a spotter, the only thing I had to get used to was more of a reliance on machines for rest pausing.
 
Simply put the best way to add mass, since I do not have a spotter, the only thing I had to get used to was more of a reliance on machines for rest pausing.

why, why not use free weights? same thing imo...maybe a little bit more variations in excersises with machines but i dont see why it would be easier.

for the record my arms never grew as good as they did on DC.
 
because if your doing DC properly you should be hitting complete failure on the negative portion of your rep...that can be dangerous on a 225lb incline bb press with no spotter lol
db's suck too bc its so hard to get them back into place on the 3rd rest-pause set

DC was great to boost my strength back up, but I'm back to training high volume with 8-12 reps and growing much better than DC. I personally feel after the first RP set, your not really achieving hypertrophy, mainly strength.

also Piston i do have to agree, my biceps (which are a big weakness for me) really strarted to grow w/ DC
 
because if your doing DC properly you should be hitting complete failure on the negative portion of your rep...that can be dangerous on a 225lb incline bb press with no spotter lol
db's suck too bc its so hard to get them back into place on the 3rd rest-pause set

DC was great to boost my strength back up, but I'm back to training high volume with 8-12 reps and growing much better than DC. I personally feel after the first RP set, your not really achieving hypertrophy, mainly strength.

also Piston i do have to agree, my biceps (which are a big weakness for me) really strarted to grow w/ DC

okay i see what you mean...makes sense. I must agree with you, it only makes sense that you would be building strength with the RP sets...I also must specify when i said my arms grew really well i was meaning biceps too....ive stepped away from DC too but i still do some RP sets in my workouts. I should probably stick with DC style for biceps tho, it really worked well.
 
rest pause meaning 15breaths or something else can you explain

also some DC movements of mine are skyrocketing and some arent moving at all

bench keeps going up and down or staying same, so ive dropped weight and increased reps

for ex the worst is lat pulldowns never seem to improve soo not sure if im doing something wrong, going too slow on negatives or what or should i change them out etc...

checkout my log if you want guys and let me know. ive changed afew exercises in and out once or twice and will continue to do so till i make progress or dont
 
warm up sets question...

if you log your warmups, i do... show me an example layout w/ weights including working set, on any given exercise. am i going too heavy on my warmups? im going enough to get the blood flowing, but im not repping to the point of fatigue, just stopping right before fatigue sets in... am i warming up properly or should my warmup sets have higher reps than this with lighter weight?

example: Pull Down Rear
WU 100x10 140x10 160x8
Working 180x 12rp(6-4-2)

As it has been mentioned Dante is pretty vague on the warm up issue. While I am not advocating that one is better than the other I am currently using the Max-OT program and it goes over the warm up issue a little more in depth.
This is a direct quote from their program:
Here we are going to take the Bench Press and show you a proper warm-up technique that will allow you to lift more weight on your heavy sets. Remember, more weight - more overload - more muscle.

Again well use 275 as your heavy weight. If you typically warm-up and train like I pointed out earlier the 275 will feel a lot lighter this time.
•First Set:
135 x 12 reps (warm-up)
These should be good smooth reps. Not too slow and not to fast. Your main goal is to increase blood flow and get the feel of the movement and the weight. After this first set you should rest about 2 minutes.
•Second Set:
135 x 10 reps (warm-up)
Same weight as before. Rhythm should be a little faster this time. Not much faster. Rest about 2 minutes.
•Third Set:
185 x 6 reps (warm-up)
This should be a deliberate set done at a moderate pace. This is the next step in weight acclimation. It should feel light and 4 reps should be very easy. Rest about 2 to 3 minutes before the next set.
•Fourth Set:
225 x 3 reps (weight acclimation)
You should follow the same rhythm as in the last set. 3 strong reps. Rest 2 minutes before next set.
•Fifth Set:
255 x 1 rep (weight acclimation)
That's right, just 1 rep. The purpose here is weight acclimation. This should be a strong, powerful and deliberate rep.
•Sixth, Seventh, and Eighth Sets:
285 x 4 to 6 reps (muscle-building)
These are the muscle building sets. Very important. These are the only sets that produce muscle growth. All the sets leading up to these heavy sets are merely warm-up sets and are treated as just that and nothing more.
Notice we went to 285 instead of 275. Warming up the Max-OT allows you to use heavier weight during the most important muscle building sets.

I use this to warm up on the first exercise for each muscle group and it works as described. I would think because both programs share the fundemental key of intensity that it would also work for DC Training. If nothing else try it a couple of times, if it doesnt work for you no big loss...
 
As it has been mentioned Dante is pretty vague on the warm up issue. While I am not advocating that one is better than the other I am currently using the Max-OT program and it goes over the warm up issue a little more in depth.
This is a direct quote from their program:
Here we are going to take the Bench Press and show you a proper warm-up technique that will allow you to lift more weight on your heavy sets. Remember, more weight - more overload - more muscle.

Again well use 275 as your heavy weight. If you typically warm-up and train like I pointed out earlier the 275 will feel a lot lighter this time.
•First Set:
135 x 12 reps (warm-up)
These should be good smooth reps. Not too slow and not to fast. Your main goal is to increase blood flow and get the feel of the movement and the weight. After this first set you should rest about 2 minutes.
•Second Set:
135 x 10 reps (warm-up)
Same weight as before. Rhythm should be a little faster this time. Not much faster. Rest about 2 minutes.
•Third Set:
185 x 6 reps (warm-up)
This should be a deliberate set done at a moderate pace. This is the next step in weight acclimation. It should feel light and 4 reps should be very easy. Rest about 2 to 3 minutes before the next set.
•Fourth Set:
225 x 3 reps (weight acclimation)
You should follow the same rhythm as in the last set. 3 strong reps. Rest 2 minutes before next set.
•Fifth Set:
255 x 1 rep (weight acclimation)
That's right, just 1 rep. The purpose here is weight acclimation. This should be a strong, powerful and deliberate rep.
•Sixth, Seventh, and Eighth Sets:
285 x 4 to 6 reps (muscle-building)
These are the muscle building sets. Very important. These are the only sets that produce muscle growth. All the sets leading up to these heavy sets are merely warm-up sets and are treated as just that and nothing more.
Notice we went to 285 instead of 275. Warming up the Max-OT allows you to use heavier weight during the most important muscle building sets.

I use this to warm up on the first exercise for each muscle group and it works as described. I would think because both programs share the fundemental key of intensity that it would also work for DC Training. If nothing else try it a couple of times, if it doesnt work for you no big loss...

is Max-OT an DC variation or their own program? I was doing something similar, where my last warmup is a heavy set so that the sudden weight of the workout set wouldn't be a surprise, but go higher on the reps, maybe i'll drop the reps on that last warmup and see if it makes a difference. to use the incline bench as an example i do

135x12
165x10
195x8
225x6-8
265x8/3/1 (the latest)

(i do 4 warmpus on purpose as the chest exercise is the first one and I have just walked into the gym, the rest of the movements get 3 warmups doing a similar weight spread and reps) today is flat bench, I will see if dropping to 2/3 reps on the last warmup make a difference... thanks for sharing
 
Max-OT and DC share similar principles but aren't the same...
max-ot is all straight sets of 4-6 reps for the most part.
very low volume and all training is done to failure.
decent program for strength i suppose but i believe the muscle grows with 8-12 reps
 
Here is the original "Cycle for Pennies" thread where DC first appeared and introduced his ideas...on steroid usage as well as training...it ran from 2002 to 2005. It is almost 700 pages in length. Needless to say there is a huge amount of info. in this thread.

Of course it has since been erased...

Here it is in rich text format in the following zip file:

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DC quote from page 85:

No kidding. If I had only had this info when I was 21-24 years old (1992-1995).

There was practically NOBODY who could bang harder than me in my gym (intensity wise) but I was held back by lack of finances to afford even modest amounts of anabolics.There were plenty of BB's who were built better and powerlifters that were insanely strong but I just loved it like some kind of mental illness-lol.

I was able to reverse grip 315x6 on the smith machine (for 9 reps rest pause) with a six-seven second negative, squat 405x15, sumbell shoulder press 105x6-8 (sets), and did 620 on the deadlift for a single and could do 500x10. All with NO ****ING DRUGS.

I trained every other day and took two days off before starting the split again. This was at 6'2 245lbs or so. At the same time I could (and still can only) curl 60-65 dumbells for bicep curls. All I could do was eat,train like I wanted to die on the gym floor,eat some more, and rest/study.

All of the exotic things like Primo,Masteron, Oral Turinabol, winstrol, and anavar aren't building monsters. If test/tren/dbol/eq wont do it then nothing will. I would like to add that anavar is an exception to the list b/c it does have amazing effects on the body but you need to get over the 50mg/day doseage range for men to do this and thats ALOT of money that isn't worth it.

My point is that kids now have it too easy. They think since they go to the gym that muscle is OWED to them b/c they sweat or worked out "reasonably hard" and the drugs are supposed to do the work for you.

Sorry but its not like that. For me, the way I have always seen it (especially when I was younger and didnt have the injuries) drugs were going to be boost to get me over the top. They were going to be thing that would let me go into the gym and almost wage war, to be able to do those forced reps/rest pause/strip sets,ect. and not have it be catabolic. It was going to make all of my hard work stick.

For the record I never wanted to be one of those people talking about the younger guys not having the respect but alot of times they don't. They want to look good to go to some nightclub like SoundFactory in NewYorkCity or somewhere like that. Sure thats a bonus but they dont truly enjoy the journey.
 
While DC training and Max-OT both share the same intensity/over load principal they are very different in their approaches. Max-OT is a program developed by by AST supplements. It revolves around the idea of doing weight that you can lift at least 4 reps but no more than 6 reps, (except calves, abs, forearms). 6-9 sets per muscle group.
Like all programs people will respond differently to it but I have had very nice gains in both size & strength. After I run this for a while, probably 6 months, I plan on giving the DC Training a run to compare the two.
The program is available on their website but the navigation on it sucks. I have it in a .pdf format if you would like to look at it send me a pm with your e-mail and I will shoot it over to you.
 
dawaro, mfbb, thanks for the info on max-ot. I have been doing DC for almost 8months and still keep making gains, so I am going to stick with it for a while; if strength keeps being my focus I might try westside for while, the wife has pretty much layed down the law of getting bigger, at 5'7 120lbs she looks very petite next to my 5'8 238lbs...

on the warmups side of the equation, i dropped 2-3 reps from my last warmup and was able to crank 2 extra reps beyond what I expected on all my movements yesterday; always something to learn, thanks for pointing me in a better direction.
 
dawaro, mfbb, thanks for the info on max-ot. I have been doing DC for almost 8months and still keep making gains,
Can you share you work out schedule? As I mentioned before I am very curious about DC. I would like to see what others have laid out for their sets.
on the warmups side of the equation, i dropped 2-3 reps from my last warmup and was able to crank 2 extra reps beyond what I expected on all my movements yesterday; always something to learn, thanks for pointing me in a better direction.
Glad to hear it worked for you.
 
Can you share you work out schedule? As I mentioned before I am very curious about DC. I would like to see what others have laid out for their sets.
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this is my current workout, 3 times a week. personally i move up in weights when my three worksets amount to mid to high in the rep range.

1a:
incline BB 11-15RP
Hammer press 11-15 RP
skull crushers 15-30 RP
pull downs to front 11-20 RP
rack deadlift 10-12 SS, 6-8 SS

1b:
BB curls 15-20 RP
hammer curls 12-20 SS
calves on a leg press 12 SS
lying leg curl 20-30 RP
squats 4-8 SS, 20 SS

2a:
flat DB press 11-15RP
Smith presses, back of head 11-15 RP
dips 15-20 RP
assisted pullups 15-20 RP
CableRows 12SS

2b:
alternate DB curls 15-20 RP
pinwheel curls 10-12 SS
seating calf raises 12SS
Romanian deadlift 6SS
leg press 4-8 SS, 20 SS

3a:
chest dips 11-15RP
Smith presses to front 11-15 RP
Smith reverse grip bench 11-15RP
pull downs, back of head 11-20 RP
BentOver Rows 12SS

3b:
BB preacher curls 11-15 RP
reverse grip 1-arm cable curls 12-20 SS
standing calf raises 12 SS
sumo presses 12-20 SS
hack squat 4-8 SS, 20 SS

I have attached an excel sheet I created when i first started DC, hopefully it helps with exercise selection.
 

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Thanks for the info rxp. I do have a question though. Are the "SS" sets supersets or single sets? If the are supersets are they stacked with the previous exercise?
On another note I am compiling a good list of articles that I am finding here and there on the net on DC Training. If anyone is interested in them send me a PM and I will pass them along. Some of it is redundant but it but hey it's free.
 
Thanks for the info rxp. I do have a question though. Are the "SS" sets supersets or single sets? If the are supersets are they stacked with the previous exercise?
On another note I am compiling a good list of articles that I am finding here and there on the net on DC Training. If anyone is interested in them send me a PM and I will pass them along. Some of it is redundant but it but hey it's free.

straight set or single set
 
I may be able to give a very accurate opinion on DC Training come March as I am currently in discussions with Dante & Doug about doing 2 months of training with their "online" supervision. We are still discussing details but at this time it look very possible. I will keep you posted...
 
that would be so awesome.... would love to hear what that's like, thanks
It may still happen but a review wont happen until April or May. Due to the cost, just let me say DC aint cheap, I am more than likely going to put it off until after the first of the year. With kids and xmas the expense is a little hard to justify. Additionally with all the holidays and their time requirements I do not know if I can devote a true 100% to the training.
I will keep the thread posted...
 
I had no idea this damn thread was here!I've been "living"off subscribed threads for a while now.I have been dc'ing for almost two weeks now.WO's will repeat themselves next Mon.I absolutely love it!!!I started it with havoc,I have a log in the cycle info section"Pantera's vulgar display of power!!!"I will start posting weights and reps on MON to show increases from the havoc(hopefully):)
 
I also wanted to say thanks for posting this PP!I don't know why I didn't think about it!Intense muscle.com is the best site to learn DC.Only thing is it's about dead over there!
 
I also wanted to say thanks for posting this PP!I don't know why I didn't think about it!Intense muscle.com is the best site to learn DC.Only thing is it's about dead over there!
Im glad you are finding it useful. There were so many questions at the time and alot of guys were doing DC so i wanted to consolidate it in one thread but i guess it got lost. Ive been thinking of going DC again, its a good strength program and itll get you past a few stagnant times imo. Repped. Kick ass guys and lets get this thread going again!
 
Im glad you are finding it useful. There were so many questions at the time and alot of guys were doing DC so i wanted to consolidate it in one thread but i guess it got lost. Ive been thinking of going DC again, its a good strength program and itll get you past a few stagnant times imo. Repped. Kick ass guys and lets get this thread going again!

I have always thought about powerlifting for a while to help out with strength.I have done the whole bb'ing with low reps all out,or here and there,but IDK....DC is great IMO for a power bodybuilding program as they call it.I have had this urge to be one of the stronger guys lately.I don't feel weak for my size at all,far from it actually.But I don't feel strong for my size either.I want that.I'm tired of the bigger,but out of shape guys out lifting me........
 
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