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ETA for High Volume EU version

I'm not sure. A PES rep i'm sure will chime in and let you know.
 
Yes, agmatine banned in the EU, so i would to know when pes will start to export the new version without agmatine!!
 
Banned when? I can't see this happening in the UK. We can still buy pro hormones here.
 
I can see no evidence of it being banned. All the sites I use still stock agmatine. If you're worried just stock up next time Predator do 3 for 2.
 
Chub said:
Banned when? I can't see this happening in the UK. We can still buy pro hormones here.
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UK is not EU when it comes to this stuff.

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Search agmatine in subject, and you will see a bunch of seizures of shipments for products with agmatine in them. I didn't say it was banned, but I did say countries were preventing it from being imported.
 
Synapsin said:
UK is not EU when it comes to this stuff.

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Search agmatine in subject, and you will see a bunch of seizures of shipments for products with agmatine in them. I didn't say it was banned, but I did say countries were preventing it from being imported.
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Why for ,,,,sakes is agmatine classed as an unauthorised novel substance? what's the risk?
 
ucheoma said:
Why for ,,,,sakes is agmatine classed as an unauthorised novel substance? what's the risk?
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Probably because it has no real food source, so it needs an application filed (something akin to an NDI with the FDA), but there is no risk at the doses used in supplements.
 
Synapsin said:
UK is not EU when it comes to this stuff.

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Search agmatine in subject, and you will see a bunch of seizures of shipments for products with agmatine in them. I didn't say it was banned, but I did say countries were preventing it from being imported.
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Going by that i would say its being stopped because it's in a product containing 1,3-dimethylamylamine? It's even got beta-alanine and creatine in there. It really is insane seeing this. When you look in your local supermarket with all the alochol and cigarettes on the shelves!
 
Chub said:
Going by that i would say its being stopped because it's in a product containing 1,3-dimethylamylamine? It's even got beta-alanine and creatine in there. It really is insane seeing this. When you look in your local supermarket with all the alochol and cigarettes on the shelves!
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But alcohol and cigarettes are legal? ;)
 
Chub said:
Going by that i would say its being stopped because it's in a product containing 1,3-dimethylamylamine? It's even got beta-alanine and creatine in there. It really is insane seeing this. When you look in your local supermarket with all the alochol and cigarettes on the shelves!
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Lots of products are being stopped without 1,3 in them, with the reason being stated that it's due to agmatine.
 
Synapsin said:
Lots of products are being stopped without 1,3 in them, with the reason being stated that it's due to agmatine.
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Yeah reading on I'm seeing that. that's insane!
 
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