Estro sides?

spirall08

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Sust 500mg/D-zine cyle
5 weeks in.

Been feeling awful lately. Zero appetite. Sluggish/lethargic. Left nipple is real sore.

I've been taking Adex, .5mg, EOD for a week now. I also took some nolva, 10mg, once last night and once earlier in the week.

I know estrogen levels being too high or too low give the same side effects. What do you guys think? Too much AI? Not enough? Any suggestions to get rid of these sides?

Thanks.
 
spirall08 said:
Sust 500mg/D-zine cyle
5 weeks in.

Been feeling awful lately. Zero appetite. Sluggish/lethargic. Left nipple is real sore.

I've been taking Adex, .5mg, EOD for a week now. I also took some nolva, 10mg, once last night and once earlier in the week.

I know estrogen levels being too high or too low give the same side effects. What do you guys think? Too much AI? Not enough? Any suggestions to get rid of these sides?

Thanks.
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you might aromatise at a high rate, get bloods in your worried about your e2 levels ($70 is nothing in the long run)

What is your DMZ dose like? 5 weeks in your liver could be taking a beating, which can cause appetite suppression, whats is your liver support stack?
 
That_TRT_Guy said:
you might aromatise at a high rate, get bloods in your worried about your e2 levels ($70 is nothing in the long run)

What is your DMZ dose like? 5 weeks in your liver could be taking a beating, which can cause appetite suppression, whats is your liver support stack?
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My support stack is in check- Cel Cycle Assist, Tudca, hawthorn berry, multi, animal flex.

DMZ dosing is at max - 45mg/day. However, Ive only been on that 4 wks (I started a week after my first pin. Unusal, I know).

I can get the blood work. In the meantime, should I up the adex?
 
Up your Nolva dose to 20mg per day until sides subside concerning nipples.

I'd also up the Adex to either .5mg ED or 1mg EOD. Like mentioned above, get bloodwork.
 
Are you using real testosterone based Sustanon or a supplement called Sustanon?

I would drop the DMZ or lower the dosage significantly. I would consider replacing it with 1,4andro which will start boosting your appetite back up and might give you some energy. You might consider getting some injectable B12, which should boost energy & appetite. CEM just started selling some, or my personal preference is Synthelamin by Synthetek. It's a little pricey, but a superior blend of B12s. Synthetek has some other good products which might help your situation, such as Syntheselen which has B12, magnesium, potassium, ATP, Heptaminol, Uridine and selenium. It's basically a version of the old Kynoselen formula made for humans. They also have a liver protection formula that I like and have used in the past called Synthergine. All those products are injectable, but could be used orally if you really wanted to (Note I don't rep for Synthetek, just like their products)

As That_TRT_Guy mentioned, get blood work for testosterone, estrogen and also the panel for liver and kidney values and urinalysis looking at blood sugar levels and etc. Also get your RBC levels checked, as those are also signs of anemia. It's better to know what's going on than to just take a bunch of supplements and guess at what the problem is.
 
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