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Epistane

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I've seen a couple guys run it through 8 weeks. Honestly, the feedback I've seen is that your not going to get a whole lot more out of it after that so essentially is just a waste.
 
bigbeaph said:
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I've seen a couple guys run it through 8 weeks. Honestly, the feedback I've seen is that your not going to get a whole lot more out of it after that so essentially is just a waste.
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Yep, I pushed it to 9 as was running with trest and felt amazing. As bigbeaph points out didn’t get much extra to be honest. No issues either but if I were to do again I’d just do 6 weeks
 
I’m kinda itching to run epi again. I’m one of the few that loooooved it. But ya, 6 weeks max. Even short estered injectables start diminishing returns at 8 weeks. Orals just don’t do great that long. However, I’ve always pushed 4 weeks to 5 or 6. SD at 10mg for 35 days always beats SD at 20mg for 28 days imo.
 
I’ve ran it twice; first time 4 weeks, second time 6 weeks. After 4-5 weeks, the results become very minimal. No methylated oral steroid is worth running beyond 6 weeks imo; the gains slow down dramatically and the damage to the body only gets worse.
 
I've seen comments on Epi's impact on libido as ranging from positive to negative.

Any opinions?
 
It’s never good if you’re not running it with test imo. But I ran for 4 weeks once and it had no effect one way or the other
 
Beau said:
Thanks - I will be running it with test (TRT)
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Biggest problem with Epi is guys running it too low or too high. 45-65 in my opinion is the sweet spot. 5 weeks all you’ll need if 60+. I didn’t feel bad at all any time I ran it, a lot of guys feel awful. It wrecked lipids and liver enzymes by week 3 for me, I just didn’t feel nearly as bad as most guys at 60mg/day. I would definitely not go lower than 45 personally. Just run liver support.
 
Matthersby said:
Biggest problem with Epi is guys running it too low or too high. 45-65 in my opinion is the sweet spot. 5 weeks all you’ll need if 60+. I didn’t feel bad at all any time I ran it, a lot of guys feel awful. It wrecked lipids and liver enzymes by week 3 for me, I just didn’t feel nearly as bad as most guys at 60mg/day. I would definitely not go lower than 45 personally. Just run liver support.
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Thank you.
 
Jebrook said:
This will vary with each individual. However, using an adequate Test base should minimize negative impact to the libido.
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Absolutely agree
However, I often wonder if age has anything to do with it. I was in my early-mid twenties in the heyday of the whole ph/ds scene. I always was careful and knew what I was putting into my body back then but using a test base was rarely even mentioned. I ran epistane, trenavar, hdrol, superdrol....etc. never used a test base and never had a single issue. As a matter of fact all I can remember is that at least most of that stuff ran my libido through the roof. Maybe slight lethargy but nothing more than an annoyance. Now in my mid 30's and these compounds cause some real havok with sides and I wouldn't consider running any of them without a test base.
 
bigbeaph said:
Absolutely agree
However, I often wonder if age has anything to do with it. I was in my early-mid twenties in the heyday of the whole ph/ds scene. I always was careful and knew what I was putting into my body back then but using a test base was rarely even mentioned. I ran epistane, trenavar, hdrol, superdrol....etc. never used a test base and never had a single issue. As a matter of fact all I can remember is that at least most of that stuff ran my libido through the roof. Maybe slight lethargy but nothing more than an annoyance. Now in my mid 30's and these compounds cause some real havok with sides and I wouldn't consider running any of them without a test base.
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I could not AGREE more. I ran SD at 30mg/day when I was in my mid twenties. No test, no liver support. No BS, I finished my workout, pounced celltech, and protein shake, 6 beers and a Chipotle burrito. And worked 40 hours a week in the ER, never got lethargic, never lost my appetite. Luckily, I at least ran Mexican Nolva for PCT. 10 years later I couldn’t go over 10mg or appetite was destroyed and I felt like I couldn’t get off the couch. And I was on 350mg Test a week. Age is a huge factor. Sometimes I don’t stress that. I may feel differently if I were to run Epi at 60mg. Since the last time I ran it that high, I was 31 and I’ll be 40 this year.
 
I would take a PH/DS just for the libido enhancing qualities.

The only product I am aware of that does that is Proviron.
 
Beau said:
I've seen comments on Epi's impact on libido as ranging from positive to negative.

Any opinions?
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With a test base, it would either not impact libido, or potentially make it better. Without a test base, it would make your libido go byebye.
 
Would it help and or hurt.....or neither if you add epiandro to an Epistane cycle? I know of possible joint issues which can be easily rectified. Just not sure if it is a waste to add epiandro assuming dry lean gains is the goal.
 
Hulksta said:
Would it help and or hurt.....or neither if you add epiandro to an Epistane cycle? I know of possible joint issues which can be easily rectified. Just not sure if it is a waste to add epiandro assuming dry lean gains is the goal.
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I wouldn't.
I could see you adding sides with it...but not much benefit.
 
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