qwerty33 Well-known member Mar 17, 2009 #1 what are, if any, the differences and similarities between epistane and havoc? Secondly is a SERM necessary for both or can i get away with 6-oxo, cycle support and PCT? if a SERM which one clomid or nolva? Thanks
what are, if any, the differences and similarities between epistane and havoc? Secondly is a SERM necessary for both or can i get away with 6-oxo, cycle support and PCT? if a SERM which one clomid or nolva? Thanks
pfafkl13 Member Mar 17, 2009 #3 Havoc: 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan- 17b-ol Epi: 2,3a-Epithio-17a-methyletioallo cholan-17b-ol PCT: a SERM is always recommended. Check the stickies for Havoc and Epi, they should answer all of your questions
Havoc: 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan- 17b-ol Epi: 2,3a-Epithio-17a-methyletioallo cholan-17b-ol PCT: a SERM is always recommended. Check the stickies for Havoc and Epi, they should answer all of your questions
