Epistane stack

jperezav2009

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OK, I want to gain some strength but I want to get cut and acquire some mass..Im thinking about buying epistane..What should I stack it with what would be a simple stack with epistane that is about 4-6 week cycle.. I dont want to spend more than $200..or could i just take epistane and a well known PCT.
 
i was thinking about taking something like this

Week 1
Epistane 20mg
Turinadrol 50mg

Week2
Same

Week 3
Epistane 30mg
Turinadrol 50mg

Week4
Same

Post1
Nolvadex 40mg
Lean xtreme

Post2
Nolvadex 30mg
Lean xtreme

Post3
Nolvadex 20mg
Lean xtreme

Post4
Nolvadex 10mg
Lean xtreme
 
6'1'' and 170? On the other site you had 160. Don't mean to call you out, but we might as well all be honest when talking about this stuff. Whether it is 160 or 170, you can probably do a lot just with diet alone, but if you want to run a cycle, why not start out with epistane and see how you like it. You can always run extras next time when you know what works for you and what doesn't. Plus that way, if something goes wrong, you know what the problem is instead of having to guess.
 
jperezav2009 said:
so i should just take epistane alone and what PCT...and where can i purchase it at
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Epistane only, you can use a test booster and an AI with something to control cortisol as well. People on here seem to like the Erase/Titanium stack. AppNut also has a nice stack. As for nolva and clomid, just google either nolva or clomid with "research chemicals."
 
Should I just take epistane by itself..and for my PCT just take nolvadex. I plan on going on a 4 week cycle of epistane and a 4 week PCT.
 
jperezav2009 said:
Should I just take epistane by itself..and for my PCT just take nolvadex. I plan on going on a 4 week cycle of epistane and a 4 week PCT.
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A 6 week cycle is better. I recommend 30mg. I'm going with Havoc at 30-40mg X 6 weeks for my 2nd cycle in a few weeks.
 
I really want to get on a epistane cycle can someone plz help me figure out a good place to start.Should I just take the epsitane for 4 weeks and then a pct afterwards for 4 weeks or should i be taking other things while on the cycle
 
jperezav2009 said:
I really want to get on a epistane cycle can someone plz help me figure out a good place to start.Should I just take the epsitane for 4 weeks and then a pct afterwards for 4 weeks or should i be taking other things while on the cycle
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Pre-load CEL Cycle Assist for 2 weeks prior, and throughout your cycle.

Did you see my above recommendation?

If this is your 1st PH cycle, do Epi: 30/30/30/30/30/30

PCT: Nolva 20/20/10/10
 
Ok so i got the cycle for the epistane take 30mg each week for 6 weeks and then Nolva for 20mg the first two weeks then 10mg the last two weeks. However Im lost on the "pre-load CEL Cycle Assist for 2 weeks prior, and throughout your cycle" can you go more into detail I would greatly appreciate it Peyot.
 
jperezav2009 said:
Ok so i got the cycle for the epistane take 30mg each week for 6 weeks and then Nolva for 20mg the first two weeks then 10mg the last two weeks. However Im lost on the "pre-load CEL Cycle Assist for 2 weeks prior, and throughout your cycle" can you go more into detail I would greatly appreciate it Peyot.
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There is a product called

Cycle Assist by CEL

Google it.

These are a mix of support supplements you should pre-load for 2 weeks, and then take throughout your PH cycle.
 
I am looking also to cycle epi as wellbut has anyone heard about epi having a mystery ingredient? Some guys at the gym saw something like that I guess
 
SO i should buy Cycle Assist by CEL and take it prior two weeks before my cycle and continue to take it while im on it...How much should i be takin of this cycle assist by cel
 
jperezav2009 said:
SO i should buy Cycle Assist by CEL and take it prior two weeks before my cycle and continue to take it while im on it...How much should i be takin of this cycle assist by cel
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Take the amount that is suggested on the label.

I believe it is 8 caps a day.

There is another product called Liv 52. This is good to take during PCT.
 
DouthitD said:
what about taking Purus Labs Organ Shield before/during your cycle

I was also reading that if you taking a liver support during your cycle it can weaken the effect of the PH
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I would add Hawthorn Berry to the Organ Shield regimen. I don't think Organ Shield has enough Blood Pressure support.

3-4 caps Hawthorn Berry will be good.

It is thought that by taking liver support at the same time as the PH, it can weaken the activity. Many users wish to seperate their liver support dosages from their PH doses.

I take my PH dose. I wait 3 hours. I then take supports.
 
DouthitD said:
oh alright that makes since

when do you take you ph, first thing in the morning or hr our so before you work out
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I have done 1 highly successful cycle.

I ran P-Mag at 100mg X 6 weeks.

I took my first dose in the morning when I woke up and had breakfast. I took it with 2 capsules of Flax Seed oil, as this is thought to enhance the absorption.

I took supports 3 hours later.

I took my 2nd dose at 3 PM, also with food and Flax Seed oil.

The idea is to get the levels of the compound in your system. I don't believe that taking P-Mag pre-workout will have a different (enhanced) effect.

I have heard that, for instance, the AAS Dianabol can be taken pre-workout with a very good effect.

I took my last dose of supports before bed.

Supports won't disturb your sleep. PH's taken too close to bedtime can. I recommend that you take your last dose of PH's well before 6 PM if you plan to sleep at 11 PM or so.
 
my bottle of cel cycle assist says to take 2pills am and 2 pills pm.and i try to take them 3 or 4 hours apart from my phs.
 
This recommendation is from a very good source:

4 CEL Cycle Assist pills (half dose)

2 Liv52 pills

3-4 Hawthorne Berry pills

From this it looks like a full-dose of CEL Cycle Assist should be 8 caps / day.
 
oh ok i am not looking at my bottle right now but i tought it said 2am 2pm.i will look at my bottle when i get home.
 
Ok so PEYOT,
Im going to start my cycle and it looks like this

2weeks prior to cycle-Cycle Assist
6 week cycle-Epistane and cycle assist (should I take any liver support)
4 weeks after cycle- Nolvadex and Liv 52..

is there anything else you recommend? that i shud take?
 
jperezav2009 said:
Ok so PEYOT,
Im going to start my cycle and it looks like this

2weeks prior to cycle-Cycle Assist
6 week cycle-Epistane and cycle assist (should I take any liver support)
4 weeks after cycle- Nolvadex and Liv 52..

is there anything else you recommend? that i shud take?
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Looks good.

I would take something for joint support. I like Primaforce Cissus.
Have Taurine on hand for back pumps. The Cycle Assist gives you liver support, so that's all you need. You may want to take a test booster during PCT. I like Testforce2.

Take the regular staples such as a good multi and fish oil. I take the PH's with Flax Seed oil for better absorption.

I plan to have some Aromasin (Exemestane) on hand, just in case gyno develops. Might be a good idea.

What's your planned dosage?
 
my dosage is as follows
Epi: 30/30/30/30/30/30mg

PCT: Nolva 20/20/10/10mg

Im purchasing the IBE but how many pills do i take a day if each is 10 mg and how many pills is it a week?
 
jperezav2009 said:
my dosage is as follows
Epi: 30/30/30/30/30/30mg

PCT: Nolva 20/20/10/10mg

Im purchasing the IBE but how many pills do i take a day if each is 10 mg and how many pills is it a week?
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Good.

You are going to need 2 bottles of IBE Epistane.

Each capsule is 10mg. You are going to need to take 3 a day. I recommend taking 2 in the morning and 1 in the mid-afternoon.

3 capsules a day X 7 days is 21 capsules a week. 21 capsules a week X 6 weeks is 126 capsules.
 
peyot said:
Good.

You are going to need 2 bottles of IBE Epistane.

Each capsule is 10mg. You are going to need to take 3 a day. I recommend taking 2 in the morning and 1 in the mid-afternoon.

3 capsules a day X 7 days is 21 capsules a week. 21 capsules a week X 6 weeks is 126 capsules.
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you sure you want to run a 6 week cycle for your first? i know it is easier on the body than some, but still would not reccomend that. Yes i know people have run it longer....
 
rynie27 said:
you sure you want to run a 6 week cycle for your first? i know it is easier on the body than some, but still would not reccomend that. Yes i know people have run it longer....
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You quoted the wrong person. I think you meant does he want to run it for 6 weeks :)

Yes, I ran P-Mag for 6 weeks for my 1st cycle and had a spectacular run at 100mg all the way.

For my 2nd cycle, I'm running Havoc at 30-40mg X 6 weeks / Stanodrol at 600-900mg X 6 weeks.

We at PHF recommend 6 weeks. It is not recommended to run methyls longer than 6 weeks.

Superdrol should not be run longer than 4 weeks. Etc. Etc. ...
 
I think a good question to ask here is what your goals are, and can you do a 4 week cycle of Epi.

I recently spoke to a guy who do Epi: 20/20/20/20. He said he was satisfied with his cycle.

So, yes if you wish to do a 4 weeker you can. If you feel like you want to take it slow for your 1st cycle, by all means.

My experience was that I've been lifting natural for 30+ years. I wanted to break into the scene slowly. I showed up at the doorstep of a very good Forum having done my research. I wanted to do a cycle of P-Stanz, Furaza-A, or 11-kt. I had heard that methyls were too strong.

I was given excellent guidance by some very knowledgable users. I was told that a cycle of non-methyls-only is too mild, and I wouldn't be satisfied with the gains I would get.

I was told to do a moderate dose of P-Mag, H-drol, or Epistane. I chose P-Mag. I was told that 6 weeks was best, and that 100mg was a good dose.

I tried it. I liked it. I recommend it.

My PCT was Nolva 20/20/10/10
 
My cycle of epistane was great however I was new so only did six weeks. Make sure you do it throughout the day. That worked the best for me. I saw dry gains and very good strength. Best thing was new I STILL GOT IT
 
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