Epistane Question

Jsouth

Jsouth

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I just ordered two bottles of Epistane and Im looking to cycle it 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. I wanna also do it so I take 30 mg 5 days a week and have 2 days off (llifting days on non lifting days off). Let me know if you think this is ok to run like this for the entire two bottles or if more time is required off. I wanna avoid PCT so im taking it like this.
 
Jsouth said:
I just ordered two bottles of Epistane and Im looking to cycle it 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. I wanna also do it so I take 30 mg 5 days a week and have 2 days off (llifting days on non lifting days off). Let me know if you think this is ok to run like this for the entire two bottles or if more time is required off. I wanna avoid post cycle therapy so im taking it like this.
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2 on 2 off should be great! It is going to be interesting to see how this works. If you take your cycle support (liver/lipid/etc) you could keep doing this 2 on 2 off for quite some time, especially if you threw in a test uncoupler, anti-cort (which we will be releasing soon), and/or low dose anti-e.

VERY interested to see how this works for you! Keep us updated.
 
Im going to be stacking this with some poseidon, NOW multivitamin, 8-10 g a day of flax and fish oil, green tea extract, NOW Silymarin and my own lil pre workot drink. Ill have to wait on the cortisol product due to money and same with the Anti-E but considering this will be ran for upwards of 12 weeks of on time I got a little time. With really only doing it 5 days a week and having the break in btw I shouldnt have any problems with suppression.
 
Think that someone from IBE should provide a little guidance here. Why would you assume that you will not be shut down after 2 weeks of an oral steroid????? Further why would you think that after roller coastering your hormone levels for 12 weeks that you would not need a pct????
 
babyblu said:
Think that someone from IBE should provide a little guidance here. Why would you assume that you will not be shut down after 2 weeks of an oral steroid????? Further why would you think that after roller coastering your hormone levels for 12 weeks that you would not need a post cycle therapy????
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Although I didn't see the 12 weeks comment from him, it shouldn't hurt very bad to do a few 2 on 2 off cycles of this product at lower dosages. If the dosages are ramped up too high than yes it might cause a problem that would eventually shut you down pretty hard, however, in lower dosages and with bridged PCT products I don't see a problem.

I don't agree with no PCT whatsoever but I do not see a problem with what he is saying.
 
I would run something along the lines of an anti E but I do not believe a SERM is required for this
 
Jsouth said:
Im going to be stacking this with some poseidon, NOW multivitamin, 8-10 g a day of flax and fish oil, green tea extract, NOW Silymarin and my own lil pre workot drink. Ill have to wait on the cortisol product due to money and same with the Anti-E but considering this will be ran for upwards of 12 weeks of on time I got a little time. With really only doing it 5 days a week and having the break in btw I shouldnt have any problems with suppression.
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What do you include in your pre-workout drink? I'm looking forward to your log ;-)

Workin
 
LakeMountD said:
We are aiming for it to be released within 4 weeks although that is not a set date. We are going to have people test it and get blood work done to show its effectiveness as well.
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Awesome. I am mid-cycle, and was going to use retain as my anti-cort in my pct. But.....are you looking for any more testers?
 
Tom 185 said:
Awesome. I am mid-cycle, and was going to use retain as my anti-cort in my post cycle therapy. But.....are you looking for any more testers?
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We are definitely looking for testers who want to get blood work pre and post cycle of X-Lean. The only problem is cortisol levels are all out of whack on cycle so doing blood work testing while in PCT will skew the numbers some.

I'll tell ya this though, the ingredient is awesome and works through an interesting pathway to yield very strong results.
 
so X-lean is the name of this product....looks to be interesting...

right now i am ending week 4 of.......

1-5 dbol 20/25/25/30/30 (first time use)
1-14 test enanthate @ 840mg
9-16 epistane @ 40mg
5-14 T-4 50/100/150/200/200/200/200/150/100/50


18-23 pct (nolva,clomid,igf-1,anti-cort,atd,cee, some other stuff)
 
Tom 185 said:
so far i'm up 13 pounds..no bloat from the low dose of dbol..crazy strength gains..im very happy with it
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After a cycle like that in the beginning, just remember that your gains are going to taper off dramatically, especially once you get to the Epistane.

I ran a 12 week sd/test/tren (split up between certain weeks) and by the time I got to week 12 I wanted ot let the test get out of my body so I started Epistane at 40mg for 4 weeks and it did pretty good at maintaining and keeping me lean, but when I ran Epistane by itself I was amazed.

Keep us updated though :).
 
LakeMountD said:
After a cycle like that in the beginning, just remember that your gains are going to taper off dramatically, especially once you get to the Epistane.

I ran a 12 week superdrol/test/tren (split up between certain weeks) and by the time I got to week 12 I wanted ot let the test get out of my body so I started Epistane at 40mg for 4 weeks and it did pretty good at maintaining and keeping me lean, but when I ran Epistane by itself I was amazed.

Keep us updated though :).
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This is my 5th cycle and i always seem to have a big increase the first 3 weeks (10+ pounds) followed by 1-3 pounds each week as the cycle progresses. I also cut weight for MMA and was playing college ice hockey, and now all of that is over.

I don't get exactly why you said the gains will taper "especially with epistane." I am using epistane to keep dry and help boost strength a little, but weight gain would be nice too...
 
Tom 185 said:
This is my 5th cycle and i always seem to have a big increase the first 3 weeks (10+ pounds) followed by 1-3 pounds each week as the cycle progresses. I also cut weight for MMA and was playing college ice hockey, and now all of that is over.

I don't get exactly why you said the gains will taper "especially with epistane." I am using epistane to keep dry and help boost strength a little, but weight gain would be nice too...
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Actually I didn't see that you were running the test til week 14. I meant if you were going to run dbol + test then stop the test and run just Epistane 9-14 you aren't going to see much of a weight increase each week. But now that I see you have the test with it then it will definitely help.

Cycles are different for everyone but I have never had success tapering dosages down (going from something like test/tren, into 4 weeks of epi by itself for instance) or from going from a stronger androgen/anabolic to a weaker one towards the end of a cycle. I always need to keep ramping up slowly over the weeks. The damn body is so good at adapting to these compounds it just usually doesn't work out for me.

It should work out very well the way you have it set up though, can't wait to see the progress :).
 
LakeMountD said:
Actually I didn't see that you were running the test til week 14. I meant if you were going to run dbol + test then stop the test and run just Epistane 9-14 you aren't going to see much of a weight increase each week. But now that I see you have the test with it then it will definitely help.

Cycles are different for everyone but I have never had success tapering dosages down (going from something like test/tren, into 4 weeks of epi by itself for instance) or from going from a stronger androgen/anabolic to a weaker one towards the end of a cycle. I always need to keep ramping up slowly over the weeks. The damn body is so good at adapting to these compounds it just usually doesn't work out for me.

It should work out very well the way you have it set up though, can't wait to see the progress :).
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Yes this is my first run with T-4 and epistane. My next cycle will of course be test with tren, deca or var.
 
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