epistane or sus500

deadeye

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Guys need some help . Ive been working out for awhile and I want to add some muscle. I am 6'1" 176 lbs and I work out 4 to 5 days a week. I have never taken any pro hormones ,hgh, steriods or anything like that.( I take supplements and my protein shakes) I am new to this and have been reading a lot. I have read positve results on both of these items and wanted to know which one you think would be best for a beginner. Also I do not want to get gyno ( im terrifed of that) so if I need to take anything while on either of these please let me know. Also do I need to take anything before or after I start taking one of these. Im wanting to try and gain 15 to 20 lbs or so. your help would be greatly appreciated.I do have a small amount of love handles I would love to get rid of. Please advise?? Cardio cardio cardio I do that next is diet I know. Which one of these might help me in that area as well

thank you so much for your help

Deadeye
 
15-20 lbs is a bit much to be asking from havoc or halo, which are recomp/lean mass oriented. u can in theory eat for a bulking phase while on them but they will keep you lean either way. my honest opinion to you would actualy be superdrol, why you ask, because it will lean you out and build muscle better then halo or havoc. i used superdrol my first cycle 3 weeks. 10/20/20 and put on like 13 lbs and kept 9, got strong as hell and lean , it was a great first run and i had no sides cept some lethargy at the end of week 3.

if your extremely concerned about gyno get ur SERM for PCT before u begin ur cycle so u can use it if u get a flareup.
 
ur serm??

do i take this beofre I start the cycle while im on it or after the cycle?? Or do I just take it on flare ups??

thanks

deadeye
 
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