Epistane Kick-in time

2kvette

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So, local supp shop had some epistane left over. Been YEARS since I took some. Been about 7-8 days so far. Running it with a little test(TRT). Anyways, anyone remember the kick-in time for this stuff? Been running it at 30mg a day, and may have a little more drive/aggression in workouts. But not able to discern it from placebo. Thoughts?

I may just test this stuff to find out whats in it.
 
The two times I ran it, the”on” feeling clicked in 8 days.

Running it again soon and looking forward to it.
 
Well, I hope it isn't bunk. I've heard some reports of people saying they got bunk havoc. But this came from a local shop, so I don't play with Ebay tricksters. Epistane used to be my go to prohormone. But anyway, does anyone have a bottle of havoc that they know for sure is legit they can post so I can compare my bottle?
 
I always noticed differences in strength within the first week on epistane, but I wouldn’t go and accuse it of being bunk if it takes a bit longer. Legit havoc is still being produced out in the Uk; if yours is from there, somewhere on the bottle it should say “produced exclusively for .......” or something similar.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
I always noticed differences in strength within the first week on epistane, but I wouldn’t go and accuse it of being bunk if it takes a bit longer. Legit havoc is still being produced out in the Uk; if yours is from there, somewhere on the bottle it should say “produced exclusively for .......” or something similar.
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This was from usa store. Shop in town.
They only had a couple bottles. Like 5.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
I always noticed differences in strength within the first week on epistane, but I wouldn’t go and accuse it of being bunk if it takes a bit longer. Legit havoc is still being produced out in the Uk; if yours is from there, somewhere on the bottle it should say “produced exclusively for .......” or something similar.
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This was from usa store. Shop in town.
They only had a couple bottles. Like 5.
 
I guess it's possible the store bought it from Ebay which could have been bunk.

Regarding the whole kick in time, orals dont require a loading phase to become effective like injectables, right???. You might not notice a lot of gym results right away but I believe it begins working right away to some extent.
 
rgurleyjr said:
I guess it's possible the store bought it from Ebay which could have been bunk.

Regarding the whole kick in time, orals dont require a loading phase to become effective like injectables, right???. You might not notice a lot of gym results right away but I believe it begins working right away to some extent.
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He was probably referring to noticeable kick-in.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
I always noticed differences in strength within the first week on epistane, but I wouldn’t go and accuse it of being bunk if it takes a bit longer. Legit havoc is still being produced out in the Uk; if yours is from there, somewhere on the bottle it should say “produced exclusively for .......” or something similar.
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It says that on the back. I upped it to 40mg today, so we'll see soon enough. If by the end of week 2 I'm not seeing anything, it might be bunk. But I got another trick up my sleeve. I'm going to test this for sulfur containing moieties with lead acetate test strips. Gonna order some, if it contains sulfur, then its most likely epistane in there since its the only steroid with sulfur.
 
2kvette said:
It says that on the back. I upped it to 40mg today, so we'll see soon enough. If by the end of week 2 I'm not seeing anything, it might be bunk. But I got another trick up my sleeve. I'm going to test this for sulfur containing moieties with lead acetate test strips. Gonna order some, if it contains sulfur, then its most likely epistane in there since its the only steroid with sulfur.
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Yea, if it came from the source that I got mine from, then it should definitely be legit man. Give it some time to kick in.
 
2kvette said:
Well, I hope it isn't bunk. I've heard some reports of people saying they got bunk havoc. But this came from a local shop, so I don't play with Ebay tricksters. Epistane used to be my go to prohormone. But anyway, does anyone have a bottle of havoc that they know for sure is legit they can post so I can compare my bottle?
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Wobmarvel said:
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Okay, 3 differences in my bottle vs. yours.

1) On the back of my bottle under the supplement facts section, the words "directions" and "other ingredients" aren't bolded. They are on your bottle.
2) My bottle has a smooth lid, yours has a textured lid.
3) Capitalization difference. Yours says "17b-Ol", mine says "17b-ol".

Lastly, I tested two capsules with sodium nitroprusside test strips. They seem to give a weak-moderate positive by turning the test strip purple.
 
2kvette said:
Okay, 3 differences in my bottle vs. yours.

1) On the back of my bottle under the supplement facts section, the words "directions" and "other ingredients" aren't bolded. They are on your bottle.
2) My bottle has a smooth lid, yours has a textured lid.
3) Capitalization difference. Yours says "17b-Ol", mine says "17b-ol".

Lastly, I tested two capsules with sodium nitroprusside test strips. They seem to give a weak-moderate positive by turning the test strip purple.
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I'm walking to work just now but I have two bottles and will check if the other is the same when I get home. I imagine it would be since they should be from the same batch but you never know. The ridged cap thing could just be a change in bottle suppliers but I'm not sure why there would be subtle changes to the label. I'm not scientific enough to know if OL os a different formula from ol.
 
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