Epistane Expiration?

[DevilDog4Lyfe]

Hello! Im not trying to bog down the forum but seeking to gage opinions and looking for some help from smart dudes. This product was a part of a local supplement shop's 'fire sale' back in 2015. Theoretically, would the epistane in it still be any good? Worth even thinking about using this at this point? It is ATS Rigamortis 15mg epi/15mg trenavar stack.

 

[Dblock]

It’s still good unless stored improperly, like high heat or humidity exposure etc

 

[EpiStrong]

Still good for years if kept in decent conditions. Might even change to pheraplex over time supposedly

 

[DevilDog4Lyfe]

Just in a shoe box, in an air conditioned house, original seals intact.

 

[Dblock]

It’s totally fine, enjoy the ride brother

 

[Ironpirate]

I'm sure it's fine but I would still want to open up a capsule and do a quick inspection. It was probably bottled over ten years ago.

 

[DevilDog4Lyfe]

I'm sure it's fine but I would still want to open up a capsule and do a quick inspection. It was probably bottled over ten years ago.

A real time capsule! Would I just be looking for caking? Discoloration? Smells? Thanks for stopping by to help!

 

[DevilDog4Lyfe]

It’s totally fine, enjoy the ride brother

Thanks for the help Brother!

 

[DevilDog4Lyfe]

Still good for years if kept in decent conditions. Might even change to pheraplex over time supposedly

Thanks for the help Brother!

 

[Ironpirate]

A real time capsule! Would I just be looking for caking? Discoloration? Smells? Thanks for stopping by to help!

Exactly, open up a few and make sure they are all the same color and smell/taste. Mold would be the biggest thing to look for.

 

[DevilDog4Lyfe]

Exactly, open up a few and make sure they are all the same color and smell/taste. Mold would be the biggest thing to look for.

Curious, any personal experience with this stack?

 

[Ironpirate]

Curious, any personal experience with this stack?

Yes but I used them starting at 30 mg epistane and 90mg trendione for 3 weeks then went to 40mg and 120mg for 3 weeks with 400mg test cyp for 12 weeks. They are both among my favorite orals. 30mg of each a day would be a nice addition to the start or end of a test cycle.

 

[delsolrob]

IIRC, it converts to Phera over time...many would not consider this a bad thing.

 

[EpiStrong]

Should be a distinct sulfur smell with epi. But like said I personally would like it to change to phera. The composition is very close so supposedly it is possible over time. Don't bet on it though.

 

[delsolrob]

Should be a distinct sulfur smell with epi. But like said I personally would like it to change to phera. The composition is very close so supposedly it is possible over time. Don't bet on it though.

From what I recall, this was part of the problem when epi wasn't technically banned...but phera was. A lot of products tested were significantly contaminated with Phera because the conversion happened much more rapidly than most realized. bad news for companies who were making epi products now considered to be adulterated with a banned substance

 

[DevilDog4Lyfe]

IIRC, it converts to Phera over time...many would not consider this a bad thing.

Thats very interesting! There is a bottle of Elite Formulations Epi Elite, probably from circa 2011. Maybe that could be Phera? Lol. I will have to look up Phera, dont know much about it.

 

[DevilDog4Lyfe]

Should be a distinct sulfur smell with epi. But like said I personally would like it to change to phera. The composition is very close so supposedly it is possible over time. Don't bet on it though.

Thanks for the help Brother!

 

[EpiStrong]

since it's interesting, a little more on the theory

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/aezm4h

 

[DevilDog4Lyfe]

since it's interesting, a little more on the theory

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/aezm4h

Great read.

 

[MattDamon47]

Do you have a base of testosterone? If not doing anything like this will tank your estradiol. Which is horrible for your health and your gains. If you want to do anabolics just take testosterone. If your afraid of needles then anabolics are not for you. Simple.