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*** Epistane Cycle Revised***

mindset101

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So ive been working on getting this cycle right. tell me what u think?

Epistane: 20/20/30/30

Cycle assist: two weeks before, during, post

PCT: Nolva 40/40/20/20

Should i run these any certain days of the PCT?
Activate xtreme
I3C
ZMA

Reduce XT: last two weeks of PCT

Supports:
Krillipid Balance
Joint and liver supports
fish oil

should i add anything? take anything out?
Thanks for the help!

the main question is should i run a test booster besides ZMA? should i add something like inhabit-E or sustain Alpha, 6-oxo to my PCT?
 
I dunno if its why you're getting nothing, but it might help if you didnt ask for help finding a source. Im pretty sure thats a big no no.
 
mindset101 said:
Thanks for the tip
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No problem bro. As for giving cycle advice, I am far too inexperienced in that area to lend any advice I would feel has enough knowledge behind it to be considered "good advice."

Searching sucks big time, but you can learn a TON from reading thread after thread. Eventually all this stuff starts to stick in your head like something that matters to you.

Best of luck to you my friend.
 
mindset101 said:
the main question is if i should run a test booster in the mix such as sustain alpha or inhibit-E?
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Your cycle looks fine. infact you could get 30mg ED bcause your only doing a 4weeker and IMHO epi is not that harsh. Save the test booster for PCT. Im a fan of using Inhibit-E like this in my pct.

Nolva
20/20/20/20/10/10
Inhibit-E
00/00/00/25/25/50/50/25/25
Maybe add in an herbal test booster; In your case you shouldnt need one but its always nice to have the boys back to normal asap.
The test boosters by NOW are cheap and effective.

good luck have fun
 
Good call on the Nolva

If I were you I would be running 20/30/30/40

Otherwise just run it straight through at 30/30/30/30

Epi is pretty mild and bumping up the dose to 30 wouldn't hurt you at all
 
farrellzach said:
Good call on the Nolva

If I were you I would be running 20/30/30/40

Otherwise just run it straight through at 30/30/30/30

Epi is pretty mild and bumping up the dose to 30 wouldn't hurt you at all
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I think i might go with the 20/30/30/40 to see how i react to it
 
Sustain alpha has a weak AI in it. I3C is loved by some, but I've just learned that it blocks ARs, not sure how bad, but apparently it does to some extent. Plenty of people have great results when using it. I'd go with your current plan for the epi, starting at 20, for at least a couple days, just to see how your blood pressure reacts to it.
 
bound said:
Sustain alpha has a weak AI in it. I3C is loved by some, but I've just learned that it blocks ARs, not sure how bad, but apparently it does to some extent. Plenty of people have great results when using it. I'd go with your current plan for the epi, starting at 20, for at least a couple days, just to see how your blood pressure reacts to it.
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So, i shouldnt add sustain alpha? i researched 6 oxo alot and apparently its up to par and suppose to work good? i would add it to the end of my 3 week of nolva pct and run it with a natural test booster for a few weeks? and some people recommend running 6 oxo with sustain alpha? yeah im for sure running epi at 20mg for the first week to see how i do. thanks!
 
mindset101 said:
So, i shouldnt add sustain alpha? i researched 6 oxo alot and apparently its up to par and suppose to work good? i would add it to the end of my 3 week of nolva pct and run it with a natural test booster for a few weeks? and some people recommend running 6 oxo with sustain alpha? yeah im for sure running epi at 20mg for the first week to see how i do. thanks!
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I love sustain alpha for use in PCT. Stuff's rediculous on the libido. Like I said, its got a weak AI, the bezoflavone. But the benzo increases LH, so it's good to go maybe the second or third week of PCT. I've used it on the off days of an odd pulse of epi I did and loved it that way, too. As far as natty test boosters go, I don't give many of them much weight.
 
bound said:
I love sustain alpha for use in PCT. Stuff's rediculous on the libido. Like I said, its got a weak AI, the bezoflavone. But the benzo increases LH, so it's good to go maybe the second or third week of PCT. I've used it on the off days of an odd pulse of epi I did and loved it that way, too. As far as natty test boosters go, I don't give many of them much weight.
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alright thats good to know. thanks for the help!
 
I have run Epi for 4 weeks and didn't use a SERM. I had one but decided to go with PP Testosterone. Recovery stack ( sustain a, toco 8 and endoamp ). As far as I can tell, I recovered ok. Besides that I used AI cycle support for heart, liver and prostate health and also Taurine for back pumps.
The reason I stayed away from SERM , in my case Tamoxifen, is that it is liver toxic. Didn't feel like stressing my liver even more after a methilated cycle.
 
n87 said:
I have run Epi for 4 weeks and didn't use a SERM. I had one but decided to go with PP Testosterone. Recovery stack ( sustain a, toco 8 and endoamp ). As far as I can tell, I recovered ok. Besides that I used AI cycle support for heart, liver and prostate health and also Taurine for back pumps.
The reason I stayed away from SERM , in my case Tamoxifen, is that it is liver toxic. Didn't feel like stressing my liver even more after a methilated cycle.
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yeah this is true but ive been reading that the test they have done for nolvadex showed it in women for long periods of time up to 2 years of 20-40mg a day, thats why they have shown to cause liver damage. but for a 4 week period of ptc i think its worth it just to be safe. AI cycle support is close to krillipid balance i plan to take for heart, liver and prostate health. i was debating if i should run a SERM but after post after post i think its important. thanks for the post!
 
is 4 weeks normal for epi or do ppl run it longer also do u think a serm is really necesary for something as mild as epi couldnt u get by with just and otc estrogen blocker and test booster

i have little experience with epi and want to run a cycle this summer
 
Eric160 said:
is 4 weeks normal for epi or do ppl run it longer also do u think a serm is really necesary for something as mild as epi couldnt u get by with just and otc estrogen blocker and test booster

i have little experience with epi and want to run a cycle this summer
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4 to 6 weeks is a normal cycle for epistane. ive seen longer though but i know u make great gains with this amount of time and its less damage on your liver even though its mild. i suggest a SERM with any PH. you can get away without it on epi, yes. but to be safe i highly suggest a SERM.
 
Eric160 said:
is 4 weeks normal for epi or do ppl run it longer also do u think a serm is really necesary for something as mild as epi couldnt u get by with just and otc estrogen blocker and test booster

i have little experience with epi and want to run a cycle this summer
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some folks run it up to six weeks, but longer than that it starts to get really hard on the liver. Some folks will tell you that they got by fine without a serm, but you really ought to run one, we are talking about steroids here. They're your balls and potential boobs, though.
 
bound said:
some folks run it up to six weeks, but longer than that it starts to get really hard on the liver. Some folks will tell you that they got by fine without a serm, but you really ought to run one, we are talking about steroids here. They're your balls and potential boobs, though.
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i agree, u dont wanna be taking chances of messin up your body. its ur for life lol
 
so i think im going with this for my pct

Nolva:week 5 6 7 8 ---20/20/10/10
Inhibit E:week 8 9 10 ---(2/1/1)
sustain alpha: week 7 8 9 10

What should i run the sustain dosing at? hows it look?
 
mindset101 said:
so i think im going with this for my pct

Nolva:week 5 6 7 8 ---20/20/10/10
Inhibit E:week 8 9 10 ---(2/1/1)
sustain alpha: week 7 8 9 10

What should i run the sustain dosing at? hows it look?
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If sustain is a PCT product or natural t booster i would run it as directed. Otherwise I think your good. If you have any coin left still I would add some decent creatine for PCT wks 5-12. Its also good for joints, fat buring(if you gain any on cycle, etc)


Inhibit E is pretty powerful, I would make sure to get good joint support as it will suck them dry. The fish/flax/borage/etc oils help but you really want a joint support formula or cissus product.
 
gymrat827 said:
If sustain is a PCT product or natural t booster i would run it as directed. Otherwise I think your good. If you have any coin left still I would add some decent creatine for PCT wks 5-12. Its also good for joints, fat buring(if you gain any on cycle, etc)


Inhibit E is pretty powerful, I would make sure to get good joint support as it will suck them dry. The fish/flax/borage/etc oils help but you really want a joint support formula or cissus product.
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I thought that creatine would add more water weight to what i already have from the cycle so i wasnt sure if u should run any. even thought epistane is a dry PH, right? Yeah, ill make sure i have good supports for joints. thanks
 
mindset101 said:
I thought that creatine would add more water weight to what i already have from the cycle so i wasnt sure if u should run any. even thought epistane is a dry PH, right? Yeah, ill make sure i have good supports for joints. thanks
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creatine will add water weight, but it's water IN your muscles, which is good.
 
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