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Epistane cycle + DermaTREST (test base)

GREEKFREAK

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Thinking....
Week 1-6
Olympus Labs EP15TANE : one bottle (120x 15mg)
30/45/45/45/45/45 = total 119 caps

DermaTREST (120ml)
1 pump is 2ml = 50mg - ED
One dose or two per day?

CEL Cycle Assist : 1 bottle

PCT = 1 month
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Man Nolvadren Xt

AROMASIN on hand - just in case

What do you think?
 
Add CEL TUDCA and I also suggest a bottle SNS Inhibit-P.

Trest gyno, if I understand correctly, comes from a rise in prolactin rather than estrogen (or maybe both?). Good to have the AI on hand still. Prami or Caber would be even better.

I did a week of Dermatrest at 50mg but bumped it up to 100mg ed without sides. Tolerance will vary of course.
 
Olympus Labs EP15TANE is fake epistane?
Are you sure?
I have read a lot of good comments about Olympus Labs
i have used Olympus Labs sarms twice and it was very good
 
GREEKFREAK said:
Olympus Labs EP15TANE is fake epistane?
Are you sure?
I have read a lot of good comments about Olympus Labs
i have used Olympus Labs sarms twice and it was very good
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Their new prohormone line has not gotten good feedback at all, especially the superdrol.
 
0.20 ed is ok for PRAMIPEXOLE?
When to use dermatrest?
I workout at morning.
preworkout is OK?
1 pump at neck or chest and let it dry?
How long latter can i put on my t-shirt?
One dose or two per day is better?
1/2 pump preworkout and 1/2 at afternoon or 1 pump preworkout at morning?
 
GREEKFREAK said:
0.20 ed is ok for PRAMIPEXOLE?
When to use dermatrest?
I workout at morning.
preworkout is OK?
1 pump at neck or chest and let it dry?
How long latter can i put on my t-shirt?
One dose or two per day is better?
1/2 pump preworkout and 1/2 at afternoon or 1 pump preworkout at morning?
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If you've never used Prami before, be careful. Maybe even start with half that dose, and take at bedtime.
 
When to use dermatrest?
I workout at morning.
preworkout is OK?
1 pump at neck or chest and let it dry?
How long latter can i put on my t-shirt?
One dose or two per day is better?
1/2 pump preworkout and 1/2 at afternoon or 1 pump preworkout at morning?
 
GREEKFREAK said:
When to use dermatrest? I used it pre-workout in the morning upon waking.
I workout at morning.
preworkout is OK?

1 pump at neck or chest and let it dry? I applied on clavicle/traps/shoulders and let it dry.

How long latter can i put on my t-shirt? It dries quick. I usually gave it like 5-10 minutes even though it was dry much sooner.

One dose or two per day is better?
1/2 pump preworkout and 1/2 at afternoon or 1 pump preworkout at morning? 1 full dose is probably fine. You can split doses if it raises your blood pressure too much while working out. Feel it out.
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Answers in bold above! ^^
 
Do people see much difference in result from 30mg to 45mg EPI?

I've always ran at 30mg. I'm actually running now.

Do the sides increase? Gains etc etc? Is it worth it?

SD for example is not as the sides increase when you dose high but gains to not go up the same.
 
GREEKFREAK said:
When to use dermatrest?
I workout at morning.
preworkout is OK?
1 pump at neck or chest and let it dry?
How long latter can i put on my t-shirt?
One dose or two per day is better?
1/2 pump preworkout and 1/2 at afternoon or 1 pump preworkout at morning?
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With transdermal, I shave the areas I'm applying once or twice a week because in theory it will absorbe better. I wake up and take a hot shower, get completely dried off and apply half my daily dose. After work I repeat the process. You can probably get away with once a day dosing tho
 
Scouse01 said:
Do people see much difference in result from 30mg to 45mg EPI?

I've always ran at 30mg. I'm actually running now.

Do the sides increase? Gains etc etc? Is it worth it?

SD for example is not as the sides increase when you dose high but gains to not go up the same.
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Are you saying more sd did not give more gains? For me 10mg is a little boost but 30 mg and every person I know asks me what I'm on.
 
Scouse01 said:
Do people see much difference in result from 30mg to 45mg EPI?

I've always ran at 30mg. I'm actually running now.

Do the sides increase? Gains etc etc? Is it worth it?

SD for example is not as the sides increase when you dose high but gains to not go up the same.
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And for me 60mg was the upper limit for epistane but 45mg was the perfect dose
 
Scouse01 said:
Above 30mg SD and you just get loads of sides and less gains.
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That's person dependent. Yes the sides go up and so do gains. I Have no sides at 30. Some ppl have no sides at 50. Never seen anyone go higher then 50. Nor should they
 
Smont said:
How's hex
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So far so good mate. I am literally on my 14th day.

Within a few days I could feel the Hex kicking in and I started hardening up pretty fast. By end of week one I looked more pumped and now week two liking like I've out a bit of size on, so I'm looking forward to the week six results.

Started epi about 5 days into the cycle so I can't wait for that to kick in too.

Hoping for some great result on this cycle. First time stacking these two compounds.
 
I remember 2 years ago i had pump all day with Olympus Labs Legend (Lgd)
Great feeling
What else will give me pump all day ?
 
I honestly think OL UK messed up and mixed their pills up. Their Lgd is acting like superdrol, the halodrol is apparently fine, the superdrol is acting more like epistane...
 
There needs to be a UK company that just makes four PHs: M1T, SD, 1AD, 4AD. And makes them reliably effective and well dosed.
 
Good thread, suscribed.

Too bad mindandmuscle forums went kaput, that board had some very good discussion of androgens (before legal gear bought the board).
 
Old Witch said:
There needs to be a UK company that just makes four PHs: M1T, SD, 1AD, 4AD. And makes them reliably effective and well dosed.
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Totally agree with this.

What's the score with PHs now in the UK? I always go dark from the forums until it's that time of the year 'CYCLE TIME'.

This year I've come back and everything is different? Have new laws come in? A lot of my usual suppliers have stopped selling SD, M1T, HALO, EPI etc which were all the rage. But now they seem to be selling less potent compounds? Also the forum threads shows people taking different compounds that I'm not so familiar with.
 
Colin said:
Good thread, suscribed.

Too bad mindandmuscle forums went kaput, that board had some very good discussion of androgens (before legal gear bought the board).
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I see you a sponsor. What is your product line? You can PM me if you prefer.
 
Renew1 said:
I see you a sponsor. What is your product line? You can PM me if you prefer.
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I usrd to be a board rep for Avant Labs, Live Long Nutrition, Primordial Performance and Purus Labs. Last company I repped for was Purus or Primordial, its neen so long, I cant remember. But yeah, I dont have the rime ro post on boards in exchange for 30-50 bucks worth of supps a month anymore. haha.
 
Colin said:
I usrd to be a board rep for Avant Labs, Live Long Nutrition, Primordial Performance and Purus Labs. Last company I repped for was Purus or Primordial, its neen so long, I cant remember. But yeah, I dont have the rime ro post on boards in exchange for 30-50 bucks worth of supps a month anymore. haha.
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Gotcha. Like a LOT of guys, I used PP back in the day, and Purus. Maybe some of the others, but I can't remember.
 
Old Witch said:
There needs to be a UK company that just makes four PHs: M1T, SD, 1AD, 4AD. And makes them reliably effective and well dosed.
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Pretty sure UK companies will be discontinuing PH sooner rather than later according to rep for BC they’re stopping all PH now along with a few other companies
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
for the record, I wouldnt do dermatrest at any less that 200 per day
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That's what I've been wondering too. Just starting Dermatrest & DMZ run. Trying to dial the trest in as its new to me. My understanding is that it has a short half life and must be dosed more often (also considering the actual absorption from a 1 pump 50ml dose)? I'm not a big guy, 170# so I was thinking 150 to start.
 
Oldog said:
That's what I've been wondering too. Just starting Dermatrest & DMZ run. Trying to dial the trest in as its new to me. My understanding is that it has a short half life and must be dosed more often (also considering the actual absorption from a 1 pump 50ml dose)? I'm not a big guy, 170# so I was thinking 150 to start.
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yes well with a td application, you would or should get a nice slow release into the blood stream. 150 at your size would be a good place to start. now if you were going to use something like 7alpha from PRE, it is much stronger, and thus you could use a lot less. probably 30 mgs per day.
 
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