Epistane and PCT

[Kiwi]

I'm 34, male and have been weight training for more than 10 years. I've never used steroids or a pro-hormone product before.

I'm considering the possibility of trying Epistane. From what I've read on this board I gather it is easy to obtain a SERM like clomid or nolva in the USA? Well, I don't believe these are easily available in the UK.

So my question is, if I were to pulse Epistane for a short 4 week cycle at a lower dose (maximum 30 to 40mg on "on" days), could I use onlyHyperdrol X2 and a liver protectant for post cycle therapy?

 

[neoborn]

I would say from others reports that Nolva should be easier to get in the UK.

I would also suggest pulsing as it's easier on the sides and should make PCT defunct really.

You should be fine with this yes. Milk thistle etc on off days

Please see my Epistane FAQ in my signature for more details. Also there is a thread in my sig called "how to pulse" which will help you also..

To finish off I would add an Anti-Cortisol such as X-Lean to keep your gains you have made!

Much Love,

Neoborn

 

[jezzab05]

kiwi pm me for SERM info if you still want it.

 

[Kiwi]

kiwi pm me for SERM info if you still want it.

I'd like to try Epistane, but I'm not sure I'm comfortable using a product that requires a SERM. I'm perfectly comfortable using non-hormonal products like Jungle Warfare and HDX2.

If it really is true that a non-hormonal stack is all that is required for a short pulse cycle of Epistane then I could reasonably see myself giving Epistane a try. More recent commentary on this board suggests that pulsing Epistane doesn't require a SERM. I'm reading logs to see if this holds true.

If I do a pulse, how would I actually know if my non-hormonal supplement based PCT wasn't enough and that a SERM was needed?

Also, even if the shutdown is minimised with Epistane (and especially pulsed) will there be any permanent damage? I.e. when the boys come back so to speak, will they fully come back 100%, not say 99% this cycle and then 98% after the next cycle etc?

 

[neoborn]

kiwi pm me for SERM info if you still want it.

Don't source through PM take anything like that to email if you do not want to be banned. Read the rules.

Perhaps look at the Epistane FAQ in my signature and also go check out the "How To Pulse Thread". For perm damage to happen I believe you have to be shutdown for a long period of time. Dr.D found that after sensible pulsing he found his test naturally higher than before he went in, so it actually raised his baseline test levels. It's always sensible to have a SERM on hand just in case.

Much Love,

Neoborn