Epicatechin question.

notorius

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Based on your experience, what is the efficient dosage so to be consumed per day to deliver the claimed results?
 
botk1161 said:
Apex topical 1-2 mg. All the others are totally ineffective.
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Do you mean 1-2 g?

Epi 2.0 by vital labs has 225mg twice daily for a total of 450 mg total per day. I would say anywhere around there and greater will be sufficient dosage for good results.
 
LeanEngineer said:
Do you mean 1-2 g?

Epi 2.0 by vital labs has 225mg twice daily for a total of 450 mg total per day. I would say anywhere around there and greater will be sufficient dosage for good results.
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I think he meant 1-2ml (5-10 pumps) of Epichaos.
 
ironkill said:
out of curiosity how do you say topical is the only effective way when all studies are on oral?
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I think he was making a joke. Obviously oral preps work, or people wouldn't keep buying it. that said, APEX is a premium offering that users love~
 
Oral isn't useless. Especially if it has some kind of absorption enhancement. This being said, TD is superior. Apex Epichaos is the best out there.
 
Where are my answer(s)?
Again,
Based on your experience, what is the efficient dosage in powder so to be consumed per day to deliver the claimed results? Thanks.
 
nostrum420 said:
@Iwilleattuna was experimenting with around a gram per day IIRC? Maybe he can chime in.
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A while back, yes! Working up to a gram for about 2 weeks. Noticed insane recomp, some well-being, pumps, muscular endurance to the point that my hr was not spiking on intense exercises, vascularity and definitely a leaning effect. It’s just so expensive to run at that dose. With topical Epi from apex, I had no oral so I did experiment higher doses with the spray and noticed localized vascularity
 
Iwilleattuna said:
A while back, yes! Working up to a gram for about 2 weeks. Noticed insane recomp, some well-being, pumps, muscular endurance to the point that my hr was not spiking on intense exercises, vascularity and definitely a leaning effect. It’s just so expensive to run at that dose. With topical Epi from apex, I had no oral so I did experiment higher doses with the spray and noticed localized vascularity
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Still taking any forms of epicatechin regularly? Interested in how epi may compare to other popular endurance supplements such as beta alanine, cordyceps, etc.
 
I used all the oral epicatechin products out there since evomuse put it on the market and td epicatechin from Apex blows any of them away.
 
The best oral Epi product I ever tried was from a brand called Wicked Supplements. It was a liquid product enhanced with SEDDS. It actually tasted decent. SoCal Nutrition was selling it. I believe it was discontinued years ago. The company was from Austraila I think.
 
Iwilleattuna said:
A while back, yes! Working up to a gram for about 2 weeks. Noticed insane recomp, some well-being, pumps, muscular endurance to the point that my hr was not spiking on intense exercises, vascularity and definitely a leaning effect. It’s just so expensive to run at that dose. With topical Epi from apex, I had no oral so I did experiment higher doses with the spray and noticed localized vascularity
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Just to confirm, 1 gram of Epi powder (added to 20mg piperine) would help, correct? If so, how were you taking it throughout the day, all in one shot or divided?
 
I'm running 900 mg per day of CEL Epi-plex alond with 1.5 ml of Apex Epichaos and am loving it so far......leaning up and my muscles seem to stay fuller for longer after a workout.
 
notorius said:
Just to confirm, 1 gram of Epi powder (added to 20mg piperine) would help, correct? If so, how were you taking it throughout the day, all in one shot or divided?
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I was stacking epicatechin products, not pure powder which had bioavailability enhancers such as piperine included. I'd say if you're using a pure epicatechin , piperine, black pepper or astragin would work

I split doses AM and pre , or sometimes AM/PRE/PM
 
Iwilleattuna said:
I was stacking epicatechin products, not pure powder which had bioavailability enhancers such as piperine included. I'd say if you're using a pure epicatechin , piperine, black pepper or astragin would work

I split doses AM and pre , or sometimes AM/PRE/PM
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Have you noticed any sides overall using such a high dosage?
 
Topical - go with Apex

Caps - any non prop blend like CEL epi plex ( did 600mg various times with great results )

get topical + caps together and run 1ml w/ 300mg cap stretch that bottle out to 2 month supply :)
 
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