Unanswered Epiandrosterone impact to estrogen

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So, I am about a week and a half into a 6 week adrovar run (3x 100 per day). To date, muscles are starting to harden and training sessions have been great. Only con is lack of desire in regards to libido. Based on how I've responded in the past to AI's, I believe estrogen is the culprit. Looking to elevate estrogen. Should I add 4 andro or 1 andro(assuming 1 andro has a small amount of aromatization)? I have enough of both for an 8 week run of either in addition to androvar.

Stats: 41 years old, 5' 10" 192lbs, past runs include Anotesten & Nortesten (2000) . In the last 3-4 years have run HiTech Superdrol, and Dermacrine/ Sustain Alpha. Not on TRT
 
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Epi converts to DHT via 5a reductase and doesn't convert to estrogen. DHT is a strong libido activator yet you are having issues. I think perhaps you you are rushing it especially at such a low dose. give a few weeks and increase the dose to atleast 900 per day.
 
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Thanks for the reply. Initially I wanted to wait until the 3 week mark and reassess. Just concerned that there were no issues libido issues pre Epi and if it supposed to be a strong libido activator, one would think libido would be raging as opposed to the opposite. Did plan to go up to 400 per day for weeks 3 and 4, and increase again for last 2 weeks to 500.

900 per day? Really?
 
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yes a lot of guys insist that's the minimum for good results. I'm not saying you wont see results at that dose just it will take awhile and less of them. I have ran 1500 per day and the strength and good feels were legit.
 
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yes a lot of guys insist that's the minimum for good results. I'm not saying you wont see results at that dose just it will take awhile and less of them. I have ran 1500 per day and the strength and good feels were legit.
Good to know. Thanks for the response. Looks like I'll be upping the dose.
 
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Good to know. Thanks for the response. Looks like I'll be upping the dose.
So, upping the dose resulted in some prostate swelling. Back down to 300 a day. I am almost at the 2 week mark. If I wanted to discontnue Androvar am I able to do a run of 1 and 4 andro or do I need to go through the full PCT protocol before the next run? I have run both in the past with no issues?
 
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Thanks for the reply. Initially I wanted to wait until the 3 week mark and reassess. Just concerned that there were no issues libido issues pre Epi and if it supposed to be a strong libido activator, one would think libido would be raging as opposed to the opposite. Did plan to go up to 400 per day for weeks 3 and 4, and increase again for last 2 weeks to 500.

900 per day? Really?
600 is bare minimum. 1000+ is where it does its job
 
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if you start now and dont take a break between them id say go for it.
 
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if you start now and dont take a break between them id say go for it.
Thanks for the reply. Aside from the swelling(started pygeum) I was concerned with the estrogen rebound. Going to the 1/4 route with the AI should take care of that and proper PCT when its all said and done.
 
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It's all in your head I think. For 1 epi is not gonna effect your libido for most in a negative way and not at all in only a week or 2 of use and for 2 if you think your prostate swelled up or changed at all after a day of upping the dose it definately is in your head
 
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I wish it were the case but there is physical evidence. Seriously though there is a difference. Next time if /when I use epi im going to stick with 300 as the upper range for me. May 5th to May 12th 300 a day no swelling. May 13th and May 14th 500 a day. May 15th...something not right
 
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I wish it were the case but there is physical evidence. Seriously though there is a difference. Next time if /when I use epi im going to stick with 300 as the upper range for me. May 5th to May 12th 300 a day no swelling. May 13th and May 14th 500 a day. May 15th...something not right
The problem is I can't see you getting any real benifits at less then 600 or even at 600 that make it worth messing with your hormones. Maybe look to another compound
 
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The problem is I can't see you getting any real benifits at less then 600 or even at 600 that make it worth messing with your hormones. Maybe look to another compound
Thanks for the feedback. Agree with you 100% on that. Im good with 1 and 4 andro.
 
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I’m currently taking 4andro/1andro and Epi Andro. It’s been a little over 2 weeks and it’s been good for libido and gains. I’m taking 6 androvar a day. 6 Andro the giant and 3 super mandro
 
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I’m currently taking 4andro/1andro and Epi Andro. It’s been a little over 2 weeks and it’s been good for libido and gains. I’m taking 6 androvar a day. 6 Andro the giant and 3 super mandro
What do you take for on cycle support? Very curious because even before I upped the dose I felt stronger and muscles felt more firm. I know many are saying I won't get much at 300 per day but I was at the time with the only issue being the difference in libido.
 
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What do you take for on cycle support? Very curious because even before I upped the dose I felt stronger and muscles felt more firm. I know many are saying I won't get much at 300 per day but I was at the time with the only issue being the difference in libido.

Just taking cel cycle assist. I know the doses I’m running have been nice. No sides to speak of. Increased libido. The pumps have been amazing, I would say as good as some strong injectable cycles I’ve done
 

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