Epiandro

Never ran epi andro stano and dont know why one would..? But ive ran 1andro and epiandro both at 700mg for 8 weeks with a very clean diet and ive gained 10 lbs while dropping 2% bf
 
Jesenthan said:
I ran ostalean and epiandro combo to cut up 1 year ago. I was excited and expected a lot from this combo. My diet was clean and caloric deficit and also cardio. I managed to loose bf but I also lost muscle fullness and strength. So in my honest opinion you better spend your $$ on AAS if you are into supplements to loose or gain weight. In your case ANAVAR would be a great choice. Throw in some test and your body will transform.
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What was your deficit? What was your carb intake?
 
Jesenthan said:
I had a deficit of 500 calories and my carb intake was less than 50 grams a.day.
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Ohh well, 50g of cArbs and -500 cals no surprise fullness And strength was lost,
Dont know ig injectables would hAve kept fulness and strength but no oral could, maybe superdrol ��
 
AdelV said:
My mate is interested in this, any sides aka hair loss?
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You'll get whatever sides your genetically pre-disposed to, i.e.
If male pattern baldness runs in your family (your grandad and/or your dad is bald or balding ) you'll get some hairloss.
If you had acne during puberty you'll get acne during and/or post cycle. Etc, Etc.
Everyone will respond differently to different compounds and different dossges. You won't know until you try unfortunately
 
Not because it didnt work for you means its ****... 500 cals under and less than 50g of carbs? No wonder lmao...
 
Jesenthan said:
you have no experience in supplements , epiandro isn't for bulking first of all. And if you think it's effective then you are a moron
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No need for name calling. Let's keep it respectful. As far as Epiandro, in regards to your comparison to AAS it is not nearly as efficacious. However, through my own use I've found it to be a safe and effective supplement. Of course, I had realistic expectations of what I hoped to achieve through its use. It is a very good choice for beginners for the right goal and it is perfectly legal to use. Hence it's current popularity.
 
Did i ever mention it was for bulking? Epiandro can be great stacked if one wants a mild cycle and has reasonnable expectations
 
InItForGainz said:
You'll get whatever sides your genetically pre-disposed to, i.e.
If male pattern baldness runs in your family (your grandad and/or your dad is bald or balding ) you'll get some hairloss.
If you had acne during puberty you'll get acne during and/or post cycle. Etc, Etc.
Everyone will respond differently to different compounds and different dossges. You won't know until you try unfortunately
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Any ways around it? Shampoos etc?
 
AdelV said:
Any ways around it? Shampoos etc?
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You can lessen the degree of the side effects with the right hygeine routines, diet and cycle support supps but you'll always get at least one side. Examples....
Pura D/Anti DHT Shampoo to retain hair follicles active.
Anti bacterial and non oily face scrubs, washes and wipes to keep your face clean to lessen and/or keep acne under control.
AI (Exemestane) to reduce Estrogen and water retention, bloating, mood swings, prevent gyno and rebound gyno post cycle.
On Cycle Supports to keep your organs healthy and keep your blood pressure in check.
Taurine to help with lower back pumps.
Drinking a **** tonne of water everyday will help with all of the above too. I can't stress enough of how important water is whilst on prohormones or AAS's.
 
Jesenthan said:
I used Androvar. it's supposed to be a precursor hormone to DHT. if you want to use prohormons you better take juice. It's not as effective as the supplement company claims.
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It's a 2 step conversion and androvar has no absorbtion enhancement so of course you need bolus doses. There are plenty of effective prohormones out there you just need to do your research and know what you're taking and how it will help your cycle goals. All DHT target compounds aren't good for solo use, they are mainly stackers that help mitigate estrogen sides and also provide energy and aggression via cns stimulation. Just because you didn't run the correct ph doesn't mean they all suck.
 
Jesenthan said:
Most of the effective prohormons are banned now . Only some useless 1 andro and things like epiandro remain legal
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You said nothing about legal ph, only prohormones in general suck. 1 andro is a very effective ph and excellent gains can be made if you know what you're doing. What's your cycle history? Stats? You ever ran a real "juice" cycle or are you just assuming?
 
Jesenthan said:
I've run real juice buddy , so I know how to compare them and I know what I'm talking about. I've tried all sorts of prohormons before I jumped into juice
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If you're so versatile on juice why did you make a thread like 2 weeks ago asking about the effects of a test e cycle?
 
JP10 said:
If you're so versatile on juice why did you make a thread like 2 weeks ago asking about the effects of a test e cycle?
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Lmao too funny! Repped.
 
Yates is definitely one of the good guys here trying to help and a veteran here so you probably should try to earn his respect . and you're talking about "don't act like a child... Respect everyone " but your other post you were calling people morons . And if you "ran all sorts of phs" why the hell are you 150lbs? Not to be a dick but I hope no one takes your sh1t serious
 
Jesenthan said:
First of all what veteran you are referring to ? .Ww2 veteran ? , veteran of illegal juice ****. I was just sharing my experience on ph. **** you. If I'm 150 then i will deal with it.
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Lmao ok little guy I think you just proved the point that you really got nothing worth contributing on here. It's one thing to share you're experience with stuff it's another to call people morons and talk like an idiot and tel people they know nothing about supplements when you're over here saying stupid ass sh1t like "I've done real juice buddy" but saying you gained 12 lbs in 2 weeks of test because you have great genetics to respond to it? And 4 days of orals or not orals but you took them and stopped them ? Whatever that was it made no sense . In my opinion Epiandro is great if you know what the fucc you're doing I ran it and put up multiple PRs on it. I'm sure that won't be the case for everybody but if you know what you're doing you will see results from it just cuz it didn't work for you dosnt mean sh1t . Go eat a burger
 
Alpha1agreda said:
Lmao ok little guy I think you just proved the point that you really got nothing worth contributing on here. It's one thing to share you're experience with stuff it's another to call people morons and talk like an idiot and tel people they know nothing about supplements when you're over here saying stupid ass sh1t like "I've done real juice buddy" but saying you gained 12 lbs in 2 weeks of test because you have great genetics to respond to it? And 4 days of orals or not orals but you took them and stopped them ? Whatever that was it made no sense . In my opinion Epiandro is great if you know what the fucc you're doing I ran it and put up multiple PRs on it. I'm sure that won't be the case for everybody but if you know what you're doing you will see results from it just cuz it didn't work for you dosnt mean sh1t . Go eat a burger
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"Go eat a burger little guy" too fckn funny
 
Jesenthan said:
your parents raised you in a proper way. Why do you have to insult me first of all ? The guy who said it is stupid but you just surpassed him in stupidity.. you adding the word "****r" ?. since its just a forum you feel like saying whatever you want ?. Stupid scumbag
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Like I said, I'm not dogging on you man. Don't take yourself so seriously. The point the guy made, while being somewhat civil, was "your a pssy, and very little, and you need to eat more..."
That is very funny to me...
 
Sorry if I missed this in a post, but aren't people who are already prone to hair loss or high blood pressure and similar sides the most prone to it? Not just more prone to it, but typically the ones to report that as a side?
 
fakeazzrock said:
Sorry if I missed this in a post, but aren't people who are already prone to hair loss or high blood pressure and similar sides the most prone to it? Not just more prone to it, but typically the ones to report that as a side?
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From what I gather, male pattern baldness is hereditary and if you have it in your genetics it will just accelerate the process (you won't go bald overnight). Not quite sure about BP other than it can be controlled with proper on cycle support. Look into ar1macare, Spartan shield, etc. I think they all have ingredients that will regulate BP in addition to having NAC for the liver, and AI control.. Should be gtg. DHT will cause some hair shedding while on cycle though. Should grow back
 
Jesenthan said:
No ,, I completely understand what you are saying. it's true that I've put on 13 lbs in 2 weeks of test e. But again I feel bad because I was a dick to you.
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13lbs before the compound really even took effect lulz
 
mmorso said:
From what I gather, male pattern baldness is hereditary and if you have it in your genetics it will just accelerate the process (you won't go bald overnight). Not quite sure about BP other than it can be controlled with proper on cycle support. Look into ar1macare, Spartan shield, etc. I think they all have ingredients that will regulate BP in addition to having NAC for the liver, and AI control.. Should be gtg. DHT will cause some hair shedding while on cycle though. Should grow back
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Thanks. I didn't notice any additional hair loss during either of my 2 PH cycles. If anything, a few extra hairs on the shoulders and forearm, but nothing to write home about. And I took Ar1macare and my usual sups and didn't experience high BP. But I'm not as susceptible to that one.
 
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