look at reviews of iconicformulations black series---they are getting rave reviews...androsterone is far superior to epiandro from my personal experience. alpha seven has some great reviews!!!
I keep seeing mixed reviews on epiandro. Been wanting to try it and throw it in the mix but not sure because some say it doesn't so much at all .Some say it does nothing when run solo and others say they gain 3 to 4 lbs from it and it's a feel good compound. This is the second or third good review I've seen on this transdermal stuff and from my experience with transdermal tren vs the pill I have to agree transdermal is way better. From what I'm seeing , it seems like it's a masteron lite, like it does 1 third of what masteron does. So maybe it's just better to go with masteron.
I think androsterone is kinda like a proviron or EQ in that it seems to make whatever else you're taking shine better. Obviously not to the degree those 2 do though.
Well, I won't argue against someone running Masteron.
I've used all three of those compounds, and that wasn't my experience At All.
I liked androsterone and it seemed to make the 1 andro I was taking work better.
i'm a huge fan of androsterone....was really happy when iconic formulations came out with alpha seven, and ultra hard is a well dosed version of both epiandro and androsterone!!!
I would imagine while on cycle. Even though it’s mild it’s still suppressive.
on cycle...the bonus is the androsterone is actually good for lipids.
Results would probably be a bit drowned out from stuff as strong as tren and anavar but doesn’t mean that it’s still not working. Personally though I feel like you will have plenty of aggression, hardening, strength etc from the compounds you are already on. Andro might at least help the lipids though but not sure to what extent
I wouldn’t figure I would see anything physique wise with tren in the mix, lol. Was actually curious about the DHEA and feel good effects. I’ve heard mixed feelings about DHEA with men on trt.
i've been on trt for over 12 years and i always feel a boost in mood/libido/energy when i run dermacrine...some would say yeah but your a rep, and i would answer that i don't get paid in money i get supps and if i didn't get good results from the supps i wouldn't waste my time-eh?
Does androsterone increase sex drive too? What have you found better solo for sex drive androsterone or EpiAndro? Does Iconic still carry Alpha 7?
in all honesty epiandro wins for libido. androsterone wins for improved physique and has the advantage of improving lipids...epiandro increases my bp by quite a bit, with androsterone it hardly changes.
Since Androsterone increase DHT you think it still increases libido just not as much? I know androsterone improves HDL, however do you think EpiAndro would have a negative effect or no effect on lipids? Don’t see much bloodwork around from users of these compounds on here.
if not going for a increase in aggression or libido i find androsteone superior...UH is best of both worlds,imo....a lot of guys are fond of running epiandro at high doses, but it fucks with my bp-for some reason androsterone doesn't drive my bp way up the way epi does.
This is interesting. Keep thread updated Bro please
To clarify (unsure if you were aware) Muscle Gelz Androhard is 50-50 of both isomers.
perfect example of how people react differently...i am also a fan of androsterone but it has a relatively small impact on my bp compared to epiandro, and if i run them together like 'Ultra Hard' the androsterone seems to smooth out the bp spike i get from epiandro.
what if doc wont give prescription for proviron?
Might be a bit unfair comparing it to Proviron. Never tried Proviron personally, but I've ran Masteron. For me nothing has came close to that for hardness and vascularity.
Good compound for hardness and even strength and drive but sheds hair for me unfortunately. So cant run, just like proviron and epiandro.
thank you for your imput....
I would agree they are both great legal compounds!!
This is one of the big questions I have at the moment. Why is it that these two compounds are legal, but so many other steroids aren't? I'm speaking in regards to US law, but I'm sure a similar explanation exists for other countries. Is US law just not caught up to what these compounds do yet, and it's just a matter of time, or is their something else that's causing these to still be legal supplements rather than illegal steroids? My understanding (which is still VERY limited) is that both epiandro and androsterone require PCT, which is one of the major reasons I don't plan to go anywhere near them (at least not until I am much older and potentially already using some sort of TRT, really understand what I would be doing by using them, and how to do so correctly).
andro's are classified as dhea derivitives and as long as dhea is legal there is a argument for their legality. the original [now illegal] prohormones were 1 step conversion to target hormones, andro's are 2 step conversion to target hormones.
Great explanation on the difference.
thanks!!!
Sorry for the late reply. For me personally, epi has better libido effects, and I definitely helps with workout intensity and i get got that feel good feeling, but with androsterone my workouts were great, i set a number of new PRs while on it, had crazy pumps, the feel good feeling was more pronounced too.
did you get blood pressure checked when running epi solo?
I did, i got covid during my last epi run so had it tested and my blood pressure was still ok.
wow-you continued to run epi WITH covid?
I know that sounds dumb, but I didn’t have any serious symptoms and didn’t realize i had it until ppl around me tested positive, which is when i got tested and found out
yeah, my wife and i had very mild symptoms also...but i seriously would not have continued to run the epi once i found out i was positive for covid--i have to tell you that doing that was pretty DUMB
