Epiandro Oral + TD ratios; general ratios blending TD & Oral solutions

[J-Test]

Hey y'all,

Your local Florida Man here.

I'm using Stanogen from Apex Alchemy, which is a solid product. Highly recommend. Only thing - to run this at 3-4mL some days, I'm going to go thru bottles very quickly. I've already gone through 1/3rd of the bottle and it's been 13 days since I started using it. 1mL day 1, 2mL from there til now. Not at all a diss to Apex, as a matter of fact, I'm moving my subscription up a month and getting another bottle. I gotta be fiscally responsible in the meanwhile.

My goal is to cut fat and squeeze out more gains for strength & hypertrophy. Utilizing Ursa to help both TD and oral. I'm on 180mg TRT until bloods in a couple week, not concerned with PCT at this time unless I should be.

Stanogen is 100mg/1mL epiandro from what I've gathered.

I'm turning it up to roughly 400-600/day, with the occasional higher day until I'm done with this run in late June (8 weeks).

Confirming here that I can use basic math and arrive at the same dosage and effect? IE 200mg topical +300mg oral = 500 total/day. Factoring in oral may lose some bioavailability so end up landing ~400mg/day from all sources. If I'm wrong, feel free to chime in.


Thanks,

J-Test

Edit: P.S. - if anyone has any recommended Epiandro oral that doesn't have any caffeine or stimulants with it, drop it here. Preferably if you've actually used it yourself.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

we use a rough estimate of 40% stronger when it comes to topically applied andros.

so if your intended daily dose of oral epi is 900 you would be hitting that with about 3.5 ml of stano.

the translation here is that you are already at a very nice dose so anything you take orally will be like adding it to your (translated?) 900 mg dose of 3.5 ml stanogen.

I love epi above 900.. at 1500mgs per day I get terrible acne so, 1200 is my upper limit.

 

[sns8778]

Edit: P.S. - if anyone has any recommended Epiandro oral that doesn't have any caffeine or stimulants with it, drop it here. Preferably if you've actually used it yourself.

For oral Epiandrosterone, some good options are:

CEL Stano-Plex 300 - 300 mg. Epiandrosterone + 150 mg. VASO6 per capsule

Stano-Plex 300 - Competitive Edge Labs, LLC

Maximum Strength EpiAndro I Best Value I 18,000 mg. per bottle I 300 mg. per capsule + 150 mg. VASO6 I Lean Muscle, Strength, Definition, & Pumps!

competitiveedgelabs.com

Muscle Addiction EpiAndro300 - 300 mg. Epiandrosterone per capsule

EpiAndro300 - Muscle Addiction

The ultimate EpiAndro for lean muscle, strength, cutting up, and drying out. 300 mg per cap. Up to 6x the dosage of some competitors.

muscleaddiction.com

Muscle Addiction Epiandro Lean - 300 mg. Epiandrosterone + KSM66 and Paradoxine

EpiAndro Lean - Muscle Addiction

The ultimate EpiAndro for lean muscle, strength, & muscle definition with a hardcore emphasis on fat loss. 300 mg. EpiAndro + 225 mg. KSM-66 + 50 mg. Paradoxine per capsule!

muscleaddiction.com

All of the above also have multi-pack options available for additional savings.

 

[BCseacow83]

OP you will have to play around with the dosing to get it correct for you.

Also 1/3 of a bottle used over the course of 13 days is not bad at all IMO. That is 39 days for the entire bottle.

 

[J-Test]

For oral Epiandrosterone, some good options are:

CEL Stano-Plex 300 - 300 mg. Epiandrosterone + 150 mg. VASO6 per capsule

Stano-Plex 300 - Competitive Edge Labs, LLC

Maximum Strength EpiAndro I Best Value I 18,000 mg. per bottle I 300 mg. per capsule + 150 mg. VASO6 I Lean Muscle, Strength, Definition, & Pumps!

competitiveedgelabs.com

Muscle Addiction EpiAndro300 - 300 mg. Epiandrosterone per capsule

EpiAndro300 - Muscle Addiction

The ultimate EpiAndro for lean muscle, strength, cutting up, and drying out. 300 mg per cap. Up to 6x the dosage of some competitors.

muscleaddiction.com

Muscle Addiction Epiandro Lean - 300 mg. Epiandrosterone + KSM66 and Paradoxine

EpiAndro Lean - Muscle Addiction

The ultimate EpiAndro for lean muscle, strength, & muscle definition with a hardcore emphasis on fat loss. 300 mg. EpiAndro + 225 mg. KSM-66 + 50 mg. Paradoxine per capsule!

muscleaddiction.com

All of the above also have multi-pack options available for additional savings.

Thanks this is what I'm looking for as a standard pairing with the TD stano. Perfect.

 

[sns8778]

Thanks this is what I'm looking for as a standard pairing with the TD stano. Perfect.

You're welcome. I'm glad to help in any way that I can.

 

[Lumalux]

What is the purpose most guys use epiandro? To raise DHT?

 

[sns8778]

What is the purpose most guys use epiandro? To raise DHT?

Most people that use Epiandrosterone are using it to be help build muscle, lose fat, and improve libido. Some see good strength gains from it as well. Oh, and some people say that it helps them with positive mood.

 

[Jeremyk1]

What is the purpose most guys use epiandro? To raise DHT?

It can offset a little lethargy people get from other anabolics. Results will vary some though. A lot of people get a little boost preworkout as well.

 

[KvanH]

What is the purpose most guys use epiandro? To raise DHT?

Strenght, WO aggression, energy, mood, libido, hardness, anabolism, mild AI effect.

 

[J-Test]

Epiandro is the $hit.

Been using the topical from Apex (Stanogen) and it's beasty. Stacked with Arimahex, Hyperion, etc. Good ****.

Stanogen

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Ordered regular Epiandro from Muscle Addiction thanks to this thread.

EpiAndro300 - Muscle Addiction

The ultimate EpiAndro for lean muscle, strength, cutting up, and drying out. 300 mg per cap. Up to 6x the dosage of some competitors.

muscleaddiction.com

Have about 5 weeks left on this Epiandro-run. Stanogen is high quality, dosage though for me is minimum 2mL, up to 3-3.5mL; my supply will last roughly a month 60mL bottle. I was tweaking at 4mL, overshot the mark. Felt like the come down off of LSD sans trip.

Chose Epiandro300 over Stanoplex because I want to gauge epiandro by itself. Opted for the oral epi as well to make the topical bottle last longer.

Ordered another bottle of Stanogen today along with other Apex Power Ups - Triton, Epichaos, Ursa.