Epiandro + 4-ando questions

simontupper

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Epiandro and 4-andro from Iron Mag Labs
1 bottle each and Sup3r-4 from Olympus Labs

I plan to use
Sup3r-4 at 200mg/day
Epiandro at 100mg/day
4-andro at 100mg/day

For 5 weeks

Should i expect any gains or it is underdosed?

Have you ever tried those two compounds together?

Can i find bloodwork for those compound?

(Sup3r 4 is used because of the higher doseper pill)
 
simontupper said:
Epiandro and 4-andro from Iron Mag Labs
1 bottle each and Sup3r-4 from Olympus Labs

I plan to use
Sup3r-4 at 200mg/day
Epiandro at 100mg/day
4-andro at 100mg/day

For 5 weeks

Should i expect any gains or it is underdosed?

Have you ever tried those two compounds together?

Can i find bloodwork for those compound?

(Sup3r 4 is used because of the higher doseper pill)
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Your dosing is REALLY odd. Sup3r-4 and 4-andro same thing. Epiandro isn't effective till 500+ and 750-1000 is the sweet spot. I have tried both compounds together they'd act as a really good base if you added more.
 
Our 4andro is 110mg/cap.

What your body composition goals?

Have you considered 1andro instead of 4 or epiandro?
 
Im going to go with 4 andro since i already bought it, but i can inccrease the dosage of epiandrol.

Im 25, 5'10", 168lbs, 16%bf

My goal is 175lbs, below 15%bf, before winter

How much gains should i expect from my stack? (Dont tell me to add a stronger PH in the mix, just answer if you know)
 
Alright so I changed everything. Got Sup3r Epi at 250mg/cap. Here's my full cycle, tell me how you feel about it.

TUDCA for the whole cycle

4-andro : 200/200/300/300/300
Epiandro : 500/500/600/600/600
Cycle Support

PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Testabolan V2 (6 weeks)
Reversitol V2 (6 weeks)
 
simontupper said:
Alright so I changed everything. Got Sup3r Epi at 250mg/cap. Here's my full cycle, tell me how you feel about it.

TUDCA for the whole cycle

4-andro : 300/300/300/300/300
Epiandro : 500/500/600/600/600
Cycle Support

PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Testabolan V2 (6 weeks)
Reversitol V2 (6 weeks)
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You are going to be very dissapointed with the results you get running this cycle. either replace the EPI or 4-Andro with 1-Andro or something more anabolic that the former two.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
You are going to be very dissapointed with the results you get running this cycle. either replace the EPI or 4-Andro with 1-Andro or something more anabolic that the former two.
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I'm not looking for huge gains to begin with. Have you tried a similar stack and it didn't work? (Again, not looking for huge gains that I won't be able to keep)
 
simontupper said:
I'm not looking for huge gains to begin with. Have you tried a similar stack and it didn't work? (Again, not looking for huge gains that I won't be able to keep)
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??? Well what im trying to say is, you will probably make no additional (compared to natural progression) gains from these two compounds. Well maybe some strength gains from DHT action on CNS.
 
Aww man... Why are so many people saying that Epi and 1-andro are almost identical?

Alright, so I'll switch Epi with 1-andro. I'll run Epiandro with something else in a future cycle.

How should I run it? 220/220/330/330/330?
 
simontupper said:
Aww man... Why is so many people saying that Epi and 1-andro are almost identical?

Alright, so I'll switch Epi with 1-andro. I'll run Epiandro with something else in a future cycle.

How should I run it? 220/220/330/330/330?
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I don't think i've ever seen someone (with actual half a brain) say the two are even remotely similar.

You dosage scheme is fine if you want to stagger dosage up, you should get great results from that.
 
Just got the Sup3r 1 Elite so I could up the dosage in the last two weeks if gains are disapointing

Sounds like a good plan?
 
simontupper said:
Just got the Sup3r 1 Elite so I could up the dosage in the last two weeks if gains are disapointing

Sounds like a good plan?
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Yeah looks heaps better.

4andro will pair much better with 1andro than with epiandro. If you get some time, do some research into wet vs dry compounds, anabolic vs androgenic, etc. Technically its not exactly black and white, but you should get a better idea as to why some compounds pair better than others.
 
It's the first time I do some research for PHs and so far I never looked into stacks before yesterday. Mostly because a lot of people seem to prefer pairing several compounds together. I wanted to do something less toxic than a regular PH. I'll look better into it, seems like there's a lot more posts about 1 and 4 andro, than epiandro and 4 andro. That helps.
 
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