What would you guys recommend stacking this with for a nice, lean bulk while keeping sides to a minimum?
11 kt
Thanks! Thinking of going OL 4 andro as a weak test base, NI EpiAlpha and NI 11 kt added in this Fall for about 6 weeks.
What dose would you recommend for advanced users?
What is OL 4 Andro? Is that 4-androsten-3b-ol-17-one or some ester of it? If so, you could use it with the NI products you mentioned, but I suspect it would be greatly overshadowed by the 11KT and probably even by the androsterone, unless you're using a massive amount. I could be wrong though. To be fair I have never actually tried "4 Andro" so it may be stronger than it looks (but I'd bet against that.)
As far as an 11KT/Androsterone stack, I'd say that 200mg 11KT daily + 100mg Androsterone daily feels roughly equivalent to 400mg test enanthate/wk.
Also, the 11KT action seems to be equal regardless of administrative route, but Androsterone does seem to be decidedly more effective TD than oral.
NutraChem yeah OL's Sup3r-4 is 4-DHEA
exactly why i love the idea of 11keto oral with alphadrone...
Thanks for the info guys! Ill stick with Androsterone and 11 KT.
Have you tried it, or do you know anybody who's tried it and told how it works? I'm interested to know, because I'd guess it should be expensive as F=== if it has to be licensed from HT, then on top of that even more costly to run since the dose requirements should be enormous. Am I missing something here?
So again what dosage is effective of this product 300 mg 400 mg?
I ran 350 with 500 EpiBeta
You mean 350mg androsterone and 500 epiandro?I ran 350 with 500 EpiBeta
YupYou mean 350mg androsterone and 500 epiandro?
I was in a large calorie restrictionI think 2 bottles of epi-alpha @ 300 mgs would make damn good 40 day recomp. Hvactech what kind of lean mass gain did you recieve from your alpha and beta run?
You mean 350mg androsterone and 500 epiandro?
You mean 350mg androsterone and 500 epiandro?
to repeat- real beast mode bro- no skittles here
So hows the feel of it ?
How many mg Androsterone ed to be anything like androhard V2 ?
(It was 600mg dose if i remember right)
I'm still dreaming about AH v2 i jumped out of bed to get my dose looking forward to each one and shortly after dosing i felt the increase in drive and powerbe it every day things or Working out
next cycle will bee epiAlpha and beta in the hopes of this feeling and muscles![]()
Sent from my iPhone, sorry for any misspellings)
So hows the feel of it ?
How many mg Androsterone ed to be anything like androhard V2 ?
(It was 600mg dose if i remember right)
I'm still dreaming about AH v2 i jumped out of bed to get my dose looking forward to each one and shortly after dosing i felt the increase in drive and powerbe it every day things or Working out
next cycle will bee epiAlpha and beta in the hopes of this feeling and muscles![]()
Sent from my iPhone, sorry for any misspellings)
Stacking the androsterone and epiandro has me cool, calm and collected at all times. Motivated as well, but not irritable like what epiandro solo does to me. If I could live on androsterone, I would.
Sounds like something for me, thanks man
I've lost 7,2 kg of body mass these last month due to lung problems, a virus of some sort so when im back up and about i think that this stack will be great turnaround from my low down state of mind right now![]()
Not using to cure anything! Dont get me wrong, its more to bring me back on the gains track and it should be good, gaining back a little muscle
Not TB is it? I'd act against it aggressively if so.
I know you say you aren't trying to cure anything, but attenuating cortisol might still be a smart move. I'd consider stacking DHEA ans 11-KT (second choice might be Epiandrosterone and bAET.) Gotta reestablish Th1 dominance while that viral infection is still fairly latent. I wouldn't let it set up shop for too many more months or it could get real tricky to shake later.
Thanks for the advise, !
I will add 11keto to my stack.
Epi, andro and 11keto will be a fun one![]()
Do you see your topical product hitting the EU dealer soon ?
And i will save the rest of my 7keto-dhea for after pct, when that time comes, i try to boost my immune system as much as i can i have bronchitis so every time i get sick it hits the lungs.
This time its just another beast in it self.
Also periodicaly lower my cortisol also to help and releave of stress, kids and work y know![]()
Those 3 stacked sounds like your joints will kill. I suggest a good joint product to go with it.Thanks for the advise, !
I will add 11keto to my stack.
Epi, andro and 11keto will be a fun one![]()
Do you see your topical product hitting the EU dealer soon ?
And i will save the rest of my 7keto-dhea for after pct, when that time comes, i try to boost my immune system as much as i can i have bronchitis so every time i get sick it hits the lungs.
This time its just another beast in it self.
Also periodicaly lower my cortisol also to help and releave of stress, kids and work y know![]()
Those 3 stacked sounds like your joints will kill. I suggest a good joint product to go with it.
I was thinking that too. The cortisol killers can be great for cutting fat and boosting immunity, but really rough on joints!
I've noted recently that one of our beta testers (who has bad knees) reports great improvement with our MonoPump and 24hrPump products. She also mentioned that she's experienced similar pain relief from Hydromax, which is another glycerol based hydration ingredient, so I have to speculate that glycerol may be a legitimate consideration for dry joints though it seems often neglected.
What's the count increasing to?
What's the count increasing to?