(-)-Epi vs Dermastrenght

kisaj said:
Yeah, you unnecessarily stoked a fire that was already smoldered. Great work.
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For reps that whine any time someone criticizes (-)-epi, you guys sure do talk a lot of **** about other companies and their ingredients.

Like to dish it but can't take it I guess?
 
I haven't said anything about any companies and generalizing does nothing but make you look like a fool. You know you are only dragging this on so you could be witty, so you have accomplished your goal.
 
De__eB said:
For reps that whine any time someone criticizes (-)-epi, you guys sure do talk a lot of **** about other companies and their ingredients. Like to dish it but can't take it I guess?
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One ingredient sir. What's the problem? Have u used it? Have u seen it being a success like say -epi, and ARA? I don't think so. That was my opinion I don't understand why there's so many people who take sh!t to serious. I mentioned an ingredient not the company itself. They're Not the only ones who use it.

Not replying back to any more. I don't do this internet thing to bicker
 
halfhuman said:
One ingredient sir. What's the problem? Have u used it? Have u seen it being a success like say -epi, and ARA? I don't think so. That was my option I don't understand why there's so many people who take sh!t to serious. I mentioned an ingredient not the company itself. They're Not the only ones who use it.

Not replying back to any more. I don't do this internet thing to bicker
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No, I haven't seen it be a success on the level of (-)-epi , but the commentary is rich coming from a company that whines whenever anyone criticizes their products, and expects everyone to take their word as gold on equally unproven ingredients (AKA (-)-epi) Lots of people like (-)-epi, lots of people seem to like laxo.
 
De__eB said:
No, I haven't seen it be a success on the level of (-)-epi , but the commentary is rich coming from a company that whines whenever anyone criticizes their products, and expects everyone to take their word as gold on equally unproven ingredients (AKA (-)-epi) Lots of people like (-)-epi, lots of people seem to like laxo.
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Let's just squash all this. But u did prove my point. I have not whine so you can't accuse me of doing so. I do stand by products that work and have successful logs not a log or two. That was my point being. Nothing else. We don't bash anyone but simply stand by what we personally and what is proven.

No more of this please.
 
halfhuman said:
Let's just squash all this. But u did prove my point. I have not whine so you can't accuse me of doing so. I do stand by products that work and have successful logs not a log or two. That was my point being. Nothing else. We don't bash anyone but simply stand by what we personally and what is proven.

No more of this please.
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Fair enough :D
 
Alex281 said:
Thanks,bro.You planning to run osta/Dermastrenght?
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Been burning to try out the combo and it seems like just as good of a time as any. Who knows in reality though I go back and forth
 
McCrew530 said:
This^^^ I tried secreta bridge and strength back to back and felt little difference my joints felt great on both dermastrength though was all of the joint health plus an increase in strength. Both helped with recovery but the TD helped more
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Glad to hear this. My shoulder was bothering me but I just ran a cycle of trest and it felt great. Now, it's acting up again. Have used cissus in the past with some success but I've read that laxo can really help with nagging injuries. McCrew530 would you recommend it for that purpose?
 
kisaj said:
Touey ran it and I believe he mentioned that he felt it helped some joint problems. Touey, am I correct.
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Well I was in a long PM chain with Touey discussing Laxogenin recently, so not to take it away from him but yeah... it helped his joint problems a bit.
 
BRUstrong said:
Glad to hear this. My shoulder was bothering me but I just ran a cycle of trest and it felt great. Now, it's acting up again. Have used cissus in the past with some success but I've read that laxo can really help with nagging injuries. McCrew530 would you recommend it for that purpose?
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Yea man my knees were killing me for a couple of months after an epi cycle and lax helped out a lot! Then after tweaking my elbow doing skull crushers the pain went away faster than similar injuries have in the past and what's nice is that with me the pain didn't return. Granted I did a 4 month trial of TD vs Oral and some of that time I ran them together
 
So what's the overall consensus Epicate or laxo? I wanna run a 12 week cycle of one or the other rather then just 8 and 4 of the other I want the most out of the best of the two
 
Bulking I'm at 12% bf but my weight won't seem to buge I want something to do before my cycle in August but I mean I'm not trying to gain a FUPA either lol
 
Pumpniron91 said:
So what's the overall consensus Epicate or laxo? I wanna run a 12 week cycle of one or the other rather then just 8 and 4 of the other I want the most out of the best of the two
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Both are great natty Supps. Epic is better for endurance and vascularity. Multiple health benefits. SU is great at nutrient partitioning and recouping with strength gains. I find SU helps my joints a lot as well. If you're curious about both we have an amazing 50% off sale for Memorial Day on our whole lineup as well as intro insider pricing on our brand new version of Test1fy. It's a crazy formulated natty test optimizer.

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Jebrook said:
Both are great natty Supps. Epic is better for endurance and vascularity. Multiple health benefits. SU is great at nutrient partitioning and recouping with strength gains. I find SU helps my joints a lot as well. If you're curious about both

Yea deaf gonna jump on that deal plus it's my birthday the 30 so it's my present to myself lol can I run epic for 12 weeks continually? I wanna stock up on the sale looks like way more positive things are said fro Epi the strength
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