Epi Andro vs Androsterone (or both)?

[CroLifter]

Hi,
Well I am out of masteron E, which I liked to run alongside test at very low doses, but enough to keep some of the e2 sides away. 50mg a week alongside 200mg test was noticeable in terms of how good I was feeling.

So I am looking for a quasi-replacement. Preferably topical, also has to be otc, as I no longer use anything besides test from the pharmacy and UG anavar when I am able to get it.


I have used Epiandrosterone previously and thought it was ok, it does provide me with a slight thermogenic and "aggression" benefits when taken at a proper dose. But I was wondering if getting a product containing androsterone is worth it?

As far as I see, products with androsterone are noticeably more expensive. But are they worth it over pure epi andro?

Basically what I am looking for is mild drying and hardening effect.

 

[Dustin07]

for pure epiandro I really like xpg epiandro if you can still get it.
for the combination, Ultra Hard was my favorite for andro. the small amount of added androsterone gave me a fantastic mood uptick.

 

[Joshlm69]

If you don’t suffer from balding/thinning, Ultra Hard probably hits the nail on the head

 

[Dustin07]

If you don’t suffer from balding/thinning, Ultra Hard probably hits the nail on the head

I do think that all of my shedding seems to be related to epiandro, but when I stop using a heavy does the shedding seems to slow down and I use a shedding shampoo and minoxodil on the daily , the girl who cuts my hair says it looks good so... who knows.

 

[kisaj]

I used to use Androhard which was Andro and EpiAndro and absolutely loved it. Made me feel amazing and always very vascular. The downside was shedding and it happened fast. When I stopped using it, the shedding would stop and start to grow back, but it never came back fully- unfortunately.

 

[Dustin07]

I used to use Androhard which was Andro and EpiAndro and absolutely loved it. Made me feel amazing and always very vascular. The downside was shedding and it happened fast. When I stopped using it, the shedding would stop and start to grow back, but it never came back fully- unfortunately.

yeah I think long term I'll have hair like Jude Laws lol but for now it's OK

 

[Joshlm69]

I do think that all of my shedding seems to be related to epiandro, but when I stop using a heavy does the shedding seems to slow down and I use a shedding shampoo and minoxodil on the daily , the girl who cuts my hair says it looks good so... who knows.

its not the Epi, its the androsterone. Have run Epi solo multiple times with 0 shedding, as soon as androsterone gets thrown into the mix my hair comes out like crazy.

Its a shame because no other compound gave me the same euphoria as androsterone, felt absolutely incredible every day

 

[Dustin07]

its not the Epi, its the androsterone. Have run Epi solo multiple times with 0 shedding, as soon as androsterone gets thrown into the mix my hair comes out like crazy.

Its a shame because no other compound gave me the same euphoria as androsterone, felt absolutely incredible every day

I totally agree on the feel good vibes from andro, I loved it. but as far as hair shedding goes for me I feel like I've seen it up tick on basically any PED i've ever tried. I haven't used Ultra Hard in probably 16 months but I have used solo and stacked runs of Var, epiandro, and gear cream. of all of them the only one I don't recall seeing extra hair shedding on was gear cream.

 

[CroLifter]

I usually dont notice shedding when on mild doses of test and masteron, or anavar obviously. Also from Ultra Epi I didnt notice shedding, but the run was drawn out and hence low doses were used (as its expensive lol).

What causes me to shed is too much aromasin (low e2), nolvadex definitely and one time i took a little tren ace with test e, that definitely caused some shedding.

 

[Neno Baylov]

So far I've been six months on 600mg testosterone enanthate, Deca 300mg per week and proviron every 12 hours 25mg. I haven't had any side effects other than the hair on my back and some other pimples on my shoulders and back. Now I'm thinking for lean muscle to use testosterone enanthate 600mg, masteron enanthate 400mg a week for two months, I don't think it will hurt much, they are relatively safe. It would be more harmful 50mg a day of Vinstrol + 200mg a week of Trenbolone as vitrol and trenbolone they increase bad cholesterol dramatically, they are somewhat harmful to the kidneys and liver although excellent in other areas.

quote not mine.
The amount of muscle gained on an Anavar-only or Masteron-only cycle is about the same. High doses of Anavar affect HDL (good cholesterol). Anavar is much more expensive and is one of the most commonly counterfeited drugs. If you purchase Anavar on the black market, there is a 50% chance you will get winstrol.

 

[Dustin07]

the hair on my back

been using one of these since 2016. they were cheaper back then, but a staple.