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Ephedrine and Depression??

larue38462

larue38462

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So I am a firm believer in the potential of the ECA stack (ephedrine, caffeine, asprin). One day at work my buddy was feeling a little sluggish and didn't want to drink any coffee. He saw that I took this stack and it gave me some energy so he decided to give it a shot. I let him have 10 mg of ephedrine, 200 mg of caffenine, and 1 asprin. He came back to me the next day saying he got extremely depressed and "felt like beating his face against the wall" :frustrate. Seems pretty crazy to me. I'm just wondering if anyone else has ever run the stack with any similar side effects.
 
Yeah, this stack depletes dopamine and norepinephrine like crazy. Ephedrine is only a desoxy group away from crystal meth. Although the E/C stack isn't going to have as much of a downfall or addiction potential (not enough dopamine release), it will QUICKLY diminish brain chemicals primarily responsible for focus, wakefulness, and anti-depressant response. It can also cause sleep deprivation or decrease sleep quality enough to inhibit the brain's ability to 'restock' these chemicals.
 
Thanks for the reply bro....I'll let him know he's not crazy.....I've never had any sides that differed too much from the normal crash from coffee/caffeine. I guess we all respond differently.
 
larue38462 said:
Thanks for the reply bro....I'll let him know he's not crazy.....I've never had any sides that differed too much from the normal crash from coffee/caffeine. I guess we all respond differently.
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Indeed. Your neurotransmitter level probably has more of a surplus than he does.

A lot of people on a caloric deficit or those under much stress can benefit from taking free amino precursors to these crucial neurotransmitters.
 
I was on Anadrox and it made me suicidal as ****. While driving I would think about driving off bridges and stuff.
Some stims just get to people in a weird way, Anadrox for whatever reason, made me nuts.
 
Force of Green said:
Indeed. Your neurotransmitter level probably has more of a surplus than he does.

A lot of people on a caloric deficit or those under much stress can benefit from taking free amino precursors to these crucial neurotransmitters.
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Could you give a basic list of which simple supplements can increase which neurotransmitters/adrenal hormones?

I know Tyrosine is good for adrenal hormones and dopamine I believe, and Tryptophan is good for serotonin. Acetyl's and choline for acetylcholine, Phenibut for GABA (or GABA-like effects). Stuff like that. Any other good ones you know of?
 
Force of Green said:
Yeah, this stack depletes dopamine and norepinephrine like crazy. Ephedrine is only a desoxy group away from crystal meth. Although the E/C stack isn't going to have as much of a downfall or addiction potential (not enough dopamine release), it will QUICKLY diminish brain chemicals primarily responsible for focus, wakefulness, and anti-depressant response. It can also cause sleep deprivation or decrease sleep quality enough to inhibit the brain's ability to 'restock' these chemicals.
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Great post! :thumbsup:

This is the type of info people need to know about the use of stimulents. Many people are fine but for some (myself included) this can cause a profound bit of depression. Over the long haul of stims are overused then this is the pattern that follows for almost all users and can actually lead to thyroid imbalances also. Not good..... get some strong adrenal support and lay off the stims (well your friend should) and have thyroid hormones checked if he frequently experiences bouts of depression, fatigue, trouble losing weight, etc.....

Mr.50
 
Interesting thread. Incredible how profoundly different the same thing affects different people.

ECA never fails to give me to give me a smooth "feel good" hit. It kinda reminds me of the days I used to smoke cigs. My brain loves nicotine and the ephedrine hit feels similar.

I cut back to 2x daily and my sleep has MUCH improved.
 
call me crazy but i felt nothing(not that you have to, to have it work of course) from a run of ECA (x2 a day) no energy, no stim crash, no appitite suppresion, or issues sleeping.

But the two times I tried OG Staker 2 back in the 99's it was borderline hallocinating or something.
 
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